agreed. i want to do the springs, it's my friend who is burnt. he just wants something new. honestly, if we drive to mpd's it won't really be worth the drive either, as his mountain looks fairly small, but they did just get a bunch of snow & it's still snowing up there, plus it's a free place to crash. and my friend would be paying for the gas since i'd be driving. last carmen heard we weren't coming & now we are...so i gotta make sure it's still cool, lol.