So I've been bugging Nivek in the other thread and based on his input and my own research I basically settled on the Buck Ferton (but didn't order yet). I'm about 140lbs and I currently have:
2013 TRS, 154, C2BTX profile, Magnetraction, on the stiffer side, extruded base. At my weight, this length is around the upper limit of what everyone seems to recommend for this board, and I heard people generally go smaller
on the TRS.
2013 Burton Nug, 142, V-Rocker, soft-medium (though perhaps not as soft as you'd think), sintered base. Marketing says take 8-10cm off for Nugs, for reasons I don't quite understand, but following that, it seems to be a decent match for my size. It rides comfortably all over the mountain, surprisingly not terrible in powder, but has limitations. I just got it for experimenting because it was super cheap.
I wanted to get an all arounder that was right between these two. I'm mostly looking at 2013 sales that are still around, so options are limited, but there are good deals, and I don't want to overspend on what will be my 3rd board in less than a year. But I don't want a shitty board.
I found a Buck Ferton in 147 and thought this would be perfect. However, as I was about to order, I noticed that the Buck 147 and the TRS 154 actually have the same effective edge. (Edit: The 147 buck actually has more
effective edge, 117cm, vs the 154 TRS at 115cm?!)
It looks like they have a very similar camber profile as well. Now I wonder if it'll feel like basically the same board.
I'd rate myself as intermediate overall, but here's where I'm at with different areas of my riding at the end of last season. I'm not necessarily looking for a board good at what I already know, but one to help me progress in areas that I'm working on.
: I spend most of my time here, do some blacks depending on snow condition and find them challenging/fun if the snow is soft, struggling with steeper runs, especially on hardpack, but making progress. Blues are no problem, except Moguls. I suck at moguls, and pretty much hate them, but want to nail them down and hate them less, so definitely seeking a board that will be very forgiving on those as I figure them out. I realize that is more a technique issue, but my guess is that shorter and softer
boards help here.
: I am not so much a speed junkie, would rather improve technique for the near future. Bombing harder is not something I care about. My top speeds last year were consistently around 35mph, but that was just short bursts bombing certain sections and not at all near my natural cruising speed. That said, comfortable cruising speed does seem to rise more quickly than one realizes, so I expect that to go up, but nothing like some of the speeds I see posted around here.
: I love powder, but even though we get a fair bit, my opportunities to use it are limited because I don't have the skills/experience to go into double-black territory or backcountry. I will hit some ungroomed runs in the morning while it's fresh, and go to a few areas of the hill that are off-piste but don't have many trees or hazards. So far, this is my favorite type of riding, but also some of the least often I get to do. It doesn't make sense to optimize for it, but I don't want a board that will ruin it for me. So probably not a short camber board
: Started playing in the "progression park", still learning to pop, doing smaller kickers and natural features. I felt like the Nug was easier to deal with in the park than the TRS, though with the Nug I ended up biting it on landings more often, even when I felt more like I was doing everything right. Maybe because its full V-rocker and so short (and I also because I need to ride more and suck less). I do some easy boxes, no rails yet, having fun trying to figure out butters and basic spins, etc. Hoping for a board that will help with butters and presses, and really basic jibs, but not compromise everything else. I want jump stability, but I wont be hitting huge jumps anytime soon, so those probably mean soft but not wet noodle, and not full rocker
: No interest in doing this anytime soon
: Cannot ride switch at all, really want to work on this, so a true twin
: Really need to work on real carving, and need a board that will help me there. Trying to learn on the Nug was...amusing. The TRS made me feel like I had a chance, but really, I was not riding it, it was riding me. Since the other criteria are pushing this towards shorter/softer, this probably means flat, camrock, C3 BTX, C2 BTX, or similar
to compensate. But I don't really know what I'm looking for there.
: We get a lot of very high moisture content snow around here, so a decent amount of powder, but the really heavy powder. Temps often do not stay low enough to keep the snow nice. This makes for a wide range of conditions, but there are many days where powder will fall, melt around midday, re-freeze to ice, dust on crust, etc. Last season I ended up battling ice as much as I did slush, especially at the beginning and end. For this reason, I really
for the ice and crust, and a sintered
base to hold wax on the slush and stop going over the handlebars.
Unfortunately the magnetraction limits my options a lot, especially with sintered. As far as I know, it's either Mervin, Smokin, a few Rossi, and I heard possibly Jones? Also it would be nice to have less rocker in the middle than C2BTX, perhaps C3 BTX, because I found the TRS to be squirrelly on the flats. But since I'm probably already asking for a unicorn, that isn't a huge priority.
So considering that, is the Buck Ferton a bad choice if I already have a TRS with the same effective edge? Are there others I should consider?
Also I know that many of my experiences above could be misconceptions and skill issues, so if it sounds like I'm making bad conclusions, definitely steer me accordingly.
Other boards I considered (all 2013):
and Slash Park
, but after learning that Tragna Maction is not Magnetraction, and hearing that there were major inconsistencies with what came out of the nidecker factory, I've passed on these
, but passed on it because it is a directional flex pattern and a setback stance. However, if the flex doesn't totally ruin buttering and/or make switch riding really difficult to learn, and I can just mount my bindings forward to get a centered stance, I would still consider this board. But can you do this on a directional flex board without messing up the balance?
GNU Rider's Choice
Nivek says the asym pickle core with softer heel on the recent models is really bad and had him washing out, which is already an issue for me, so that scared me away.
Others I'm not sure if I should be considering are Smokin Superpark
(too stiff?), and Danny Kass
(supposedly for aggressive riders, not sure why).
(Edit: Can't math, meant dropping 7cm)