I ended up having to return these boots, luckily I got them from REI. They broke down after only maybe 30 days of riding with plenty of hiking mixed in there. One of the main issues was that the lower zone wouldn't get as tight as I needed it. Tightening the lower zone to its limit may have also related to the other issue, which was when the ankle area broke down and no longer provided proper support. I should have taken some pics, as I can't really describe how it looked. Basically they were very comfortable out of the box, and were great for the first 20 days, then started to break down rapidly.
16 Gnu Swallow Tail Carver . 16 NS West . 15 NS Snowtrooper BIA
15 Now Drive . 14 Burton Genesis
14 Flow Hylite