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Old 01-24-2011, 03:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
oldlady
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with regards to looks- depends how you like your outerwear to fit. i prefer mine just a little baggy. (but not too ridiculous)

with regards to fit- i'm 5'7ish, 30 waist. bought medium 686 mannual militants and they fit fine once i used the adjustable straps to tighten them a little.
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