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REVIEW - 2012 Jones Mountain Twin 164W

Bought this board as an early birthday present for myself and took it out for its first pow duty on Saturday Jan 21 2012 at Stevens Pass.

About a foot of fresh had fallen the night before and we arrived around 8:15am to stand in line on Kehr's chair and make our way up to the backside. Unfortunately, high winds plagued the first few hours of the day and we were confined to only the front for my initial experience.

I'm a lean and muscular big guy at 6'3 ~235lbs and typically go for ultra stiff setups so I knew this board would be a very different experience for me.

Now on to the review.

Board: Mountain Twin 164W
Bindings: 2010 burton c60
Boots: Nike Kaiju
Stance: 15/-15, 25in

I chose this combo because I was really interested in seeing if I could carve with the board's CamRock profile.

Board stiffness: I'd rate this board as a 4/10 where my 2012 Custom X is a 9/10.
Playfullness: Super easy to ollie and butter, very fun switch
Flex: Jones says the board is slightly stiffer in the tail but I never noticed it. Board felt like a true twin on jumps and smaller cliffs.


The board did better than expected in powder and floated without too much effort. I appreciated the blunt nose but couldn't even tell there was any magnetraction on the edges. Spinning was simple, butters were fun, ollies had some pop, and the board was really lively. Turning was super easy and I could make really really tight turns with the sidecut. I felt like I could control it very well with very little effort but my "turns per hill" ratio went up drastically from my usual # that I can achieve with the Custom X.


The board was unstable at any real speeds, didn't hold an edge well on steeper groomed runs, and I was thinking "What Magnetraction?" the entire time I was out of powder. Board constantly wanted to wash out in anything but pow and I never felt like it could handle a true deep carve so I didn't even attempt it. The durability of the deck is suspect. Topsheet was blemished and the base had a couple blemishes as well. Two thumbs down for the shit job Nidecker did on what could have been an awesome topsheet.


This board forced me to change my entire style and I had a ton of fun despite the board letting me down in a few areas that I thought it would perform better in. It took a few runs to figure out the balance points so fun went up gradually the entire day. The CamRock profile was interesting but really felt loose at speed. No major chatter, but I had a couple washouts from hard carves that I thought the board would handle given the sidecut and magnetraction feature. I could overpower it at will, but when I turned down the aggression the board had more character and was less frustrating.

I would definitely recommend this board + size for any bigger guy looking to improve core fundamental snowboarding skills with a board that performs decently in powder. My usual mentality is to ride fast and hard on steeps, but this board required a different mindset. I had tons of fun on more mellow terrain and was constantly looking for features to hit without abandon. It wasn't a race to get down each run, but rather more like a chess match to pick a better line and search out some fun stuff. Pairing it with the stiffer bindings was a cool feeling because it made the board feel more playful and allowed me to pop fairly well. I might try a set of softer bindings with it to see what happens but I liked the feel of the c60s and at least now they aren't collecting dust.

This will be the board I take with me when I'm riding with less experienced friends or teaching someone. I did find myself pining for the Custom X a few times when I had to slow down out of necessity rather than choice.

I think if you got this board for under 400 you'd be getting a really sweet deal. The current price point is definitely a little too high given the durability worries and overall free ride performance. Freestyle, 2 thumbs up.

This is my first Jones board and I will continue to provide any updates worth sharing throughout the season.
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