I have a 65 snowmullet and my buddy has a 65 charlie and the mullet just does everything better. Retails for 150 more though. The mullet turns great and quick in all snow, is fun to ollie and butter, and has more float thans the mullet. Too bad they don't make it anymore. I'm thinking about a birdman 180 if I can find a deal, if I can't find a used mullet. Four years of montana rocks have done it toll.