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Old 10-09-2012, 05:45 PM   #20 (permalink)
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You do realize Obama has continued almost all of Bush's policies and in some cases even expanded it right?

That's fine you like Obama. But at least get the facts right.

Obama has not given up any executive power secured by Bush. And in fact has contradicted himself on all the points he criticised Bush for. And you're falling for it, hook line and sinker.

Gitmo. Still open.
Military tribunals. Still open.
Rendition. Still used.
Drone attacks. Worse.
Going to war without congress approval, hello Libya and Syria. Congress, Democrats and GOP, both criticized him for that. Didn't care.
Executive Privilege. Still used it.
Transparency? Ignored it (every bill will be up for 5 days before voting, all health care talks will be on Cspan - both ignored).
Told everyone he was never going to bypass Congress. He does it.
Was going to ban lobbyists from working in his administration. Issued waivers the very next day after the ban, and in some cases no waivers at all.

What executive power did Bush wield, that Obama is not wielding, for you to come to that conclusion. Name one.

Patriot Act? Not only did he support renewing it (it has to be renewed every year), he expanded it.


And this one is the kicker. He applauded the assassination of a US citizen without due process. Anwar al-Awlaki. This is the first time in our history a US president has boasted about assassinating a US Citizen, no matter how evil the guy is (Hey, I'm all for killing the guy).

Who signed the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012, which upended the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, a very significant act which says the Military shall never engage in activity on US soils without Congressional approval. If the military wanted to arrest a terrorist on US soil, the FBI or locals would have to do it. Now the Military can do it, without approval from Congress. This is another civil liberty signed away. By Obama.

Back to the patriot act. He renewed the wiretap provisions, and it took the GOP house to revoke it.

That is your President. Prefer him for many things, but don't prefer him because you believe he was different than Bush. He is worse than Bush, because he's taken everything Bush did, extended it, and slightly expanded it.
I prefer Obama to Romney. At least he promised to strike down citizen united?
Do you acknowledge the total obstructionism of the Republicans? How would you be able to change anything if he has to fight EVEN for stuff that would appear obvious?
Since 911 this country has turned into something else.... And apparently most americans like it.
The intervention in Libya was minimal...and we are not in Syria..

Gitmo. Still open.
Military tribunals. Still open.
Rendition. Still used.
Drone attacks. Worse.

Totally agree with you and it's a shame. But I'm convinced that Romney would do even worse. And suddenly he's popular because he can lie on television? Are you kidding me??
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