Originally Posted by 2hipp4u
I was not trying to imply that the supposed word of God and the promise made was a fact. I just refer to the many kingdoms of Israel that have risen and fell over the last 3000 years, many of which happend before the supposed profit Mohammed got wasted and wrote down a bunch of horseshit and declared it the word of god.
Problem is that there are probably very few peoples who can make an unchallenged claim to any territory. North American culture took the land from First Nations. But First Nations probably took land back and forth among themselves multiple times. Land claims in B.C. by First Nations total about 150% of the total land area of the province, despite the fact that not all the land is claimed. This is because of competing and overlapping claims. There's also some evidence (possibly engineered) that the First Nations are actually Second Nations and took the land from the Clovis people.
On the British Isles, the land has been conquered multiple times. Europe has had armies sweeping back and forth for millenia. Africa -- don't get me started.
This stuff has been happening for 50,000 years. The point is that if you try to enact justice and put everybody back where they came from, even assuming you can untangle it, probably no-one will end up where they are right now. So while I accept that the Palestinian business is complicated and so forth, claims of "it's our traditional land" are just rhetoric as far as I'm concerned.