Cartels are softer than ever. Straight from a Burton rep. He didnt know why they dont say so on the site, neither do I.
I'll take your rep and raise him by a guy who designs the actual bindings. Cartels are the same stiffness as last year. The highback has 3% more torsional flex, that's all.
You make them sound like they're as stiff as a pair of tube socks