Yeah, the cartel, malavita & genesis baseplates are made from the same material but the stiffness & weight is a bit different. I would guess the mold would have an effect.
Anyways, that comment about fondling them was directed at you, Eli, it was at the other guy who thinks he knows more.
For the record, the reg cartel is 820 grams and the ltd is 760g. So, 60g saving per binding. The genesis is 758g btw.
So anyways, Eli, I have the 2014 in my hands as I type this, and I can tell you from first-hand experience that these are so,so, so sick!