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Old 12-03-2012, 02:39 PM   #28 (permalink)
goyo
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Being naive must also be a sickness. Think of countries that have never experienced oppression, now think of those who have. Think of countries that were once or are free, now look up how they achieved it. Think of a people who were oppressed, think of what gave their oppressors an advantage. For the most part, the conclusion arrived to is force.

You're living in a magically world if you think that we are not closer to tyranny than we've ever been as a country. Although we may be far off, but a fool believes that it can never happen to us. I can think of many moments in History were an armed underdog may have prevented tragedies, first thought was of many of the holocausts that have taken place.

It's easy to focus on the small and unfortunately often close downsides, when the massive upside seems implausible and can be written off as paranoia. History teaches us otherwise. Perhaps we are no where near facing a tyrannical state, but to give up those rights now does not help whatever situation may arise 100 years from now. However, if you think the world will always be some magical place, I'm wasting my time.

Can armed citizens defeat and heavily armed government with better trained thugs? Yes, history has taught us it is absolutely possible (should I name the obvious example?). It's even more hard for said government to disrupt it's own, and as history has also taught us, the first step to this is to disarm the populace.
Geez, "magical world" When did I say anything about magical world?
Your calling me naive? because I expressed an opinion?
Now to the serious points.

"You're living in a magically world if you think that we are not closer to tyranny than we've ever been as a country. Although we may be far off"
So which is it? closer or far off??

"Think of countries that have never experienced oppression, now think of those who have. Think of countries that were once or are free"
Exactly my point. If we werent free I would definately want a gun.
But we are free!

"if you think the world will always be some magical place, I'm wasting my time"
Magical place?? Far from it. so your not wasting your time

"Can armed citizens defeat and heavily armed government with better trained thugs? Yes, history has taught us it is absolutely possible"
Yeap, maybe with a rifle that had 1 shot and a knife, or a machine gun that you had to wait for it to cool down.
This day in time, technology, you would loose thousands for tens.
Dont you go red dawning on us now... haha
Its like saying I kick trices ass at all mountain, yeah, it can happen, if I train hard enough, it can happen.
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