Yup, 185 in my birthday suit so with all the gear around 205. Thanks for the advice and the size chart.
That's another reason for me to stay at the upper end with my size 11 boots. The waist for the 165 is 26.2 including the death grip, so without it it should be somewhere around 25.8, and the 162 around 25.4. That's not a lot.
Actually it is plenty. In fact, it is more than you need.