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2013 Reflex Cartels LTD, Malavita, or Genesis?

Got a B gift card and in the market for a new set of binders. Anyone have any strong opinions for these binders on way or the another? No ICS boards in the quiver at the moment, so EST is out.

Gift card balance is enough to cover any of the three, so price isn't really a concern. Was looking at the Diode too, but those are probably too stiff for my liking.

Last set of Burton binders I rode were the 08 Cartels and 09 Triads. Both were nice, but the ankle straps were a little too soft for my taste. Old cartel was a little too much FL for me, but new Cartels can be zero-leaned so sounds like that's not really an issue. Last couple binders I owned were Union Forces and Rome 390s. That's probably about as soft a binding as I'd rock for everyday.

Cartel sounds like the safe pick since I've ridden them (even if much older versions) and I know I'd be ok with them.

I originally eliminated the Vitas because they sounded too cush/soft for my tastes, but it sounds like the strap and baseplate are both a bit stiffer for 2013.

Genesis are on here mostly because I'm interested in the new tech. Read a few good things about them, but not so much on how they fit in the line compared to the Cartels and Vitas.

I know preference is everything and it's not like any of them are going to hampered my ability to have fun, just looking for any input folks might have based on the above. Leaning Genesis right now just because they sound super comfy, but open to input.
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