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Originally Posted by dreampow View Post
Thanks for the suggestion. Have been looking at some genesis just today.
I can pick some up at a reasonable price in my size.

I have two reservations though,

1) Most riders seems to say they are more on the freestyle side of all mountain. I definitely need enough response to handle some pretty steep technical terrain of the pistes.

2) Thanks to your post, I now see they have no autocant. Why not?

I have looked at several different companies (within whats available here in Japan) and I just keep coming back to the cartels. The little extra stiffness (compared to the genesis) and I know they will do everything I need of them.

I can get my hands on the restricted and the limited late release (lighter and with react strap upgrade).

I am now leaning heavily towards those limited cartels.

Any thoughts? Have you ridden them?

Happy new years eve everyone.
Cartels are a solid choice too. I love those bindings. Just keep in mind they become a bit more forgiving putting them back into the freestyle orientated side of the all-mountain game.

However, as you said, they are stiffer than the genesis. Genesis definitely have more lateral flex. The hammock on the highback in my opinion make them more responsive on the heel edge though. As soon you lean heel side, you get the response.

I am also very confused as to why they didn't give it autocant. I thought maybe they just didn't list it as a feature, but it's definitely missing. I was thinking about contacting burton to see if they can hook me up with autocant footbeds.

Are you able to physically handle a pair? Maybe the shop will let you mount it on a board so you can get an idea about the flex?

I think the Targas would be too stiff for him Wolfie. He said he wants to do more freestyle. I found Targas to be very unforgiving even without any inserts in he ankle strap. But they definitely would make sick technical bindings.

Guess it also depends on what type of freestyle you want to do. You're probably not gonna like buttering or jibbing with those bindings. Reviews and David Z's rants
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