I just bought some Thirty Two Focus Boas...I wear a size 12 shoe, and wound up buying size 12 boots. I couldn't even get my foot into a smaller pair. I wore them around for a few days then had them heat molded. Only made a couple trip out with them so far, but even if they pack out some I think they'll be fine.
Does that answer your question? Probably not...but Thirty Two's seem to take the size variations/packing out into account.
Thanks for the input.
So are they painful or snug?
I'd like them to fit well with my toes at the ends, but not so they're painful or make my toes numb. I only ride once or twice per week so they'd take a while to pack out.