Originally Posted by Rockpen
Not too many brands that are not made in China anymore. I can't speak directly for their snowboards but a friend of mine has one and he likes it. And what brand isn't a marketing name?
Yeah but most big/good brands don't use factory specs. All the tech comes out of north America. Or at least Europe. K2, Burton, Rome, Lib Tech... These all have R&D HQs stateside. Bataleon is a European brand off the top of my head I can think of. Shit like Monson is what he's equating Santa Cruz to. Pressed out of a mould with little innovation. You're basic stick, nothing fancy. As for the name remark, I'm pretty sure he means that Santa Cruz is running off the fumes of their glory days. They're JUST a name. Not like back in the day when Santa Cruz had a sick pro skate and board team. That's why he also brought up Sims and Lamar... I still remember when Lamar was hype... Now its a brand sold in Sears.
Anyways, if you're on a budget or a beginner looking for a causal ride, get a Santa Cruz. If you wanna get it going, don't waste your money. And I sell this shit for a living.