B-Avenger- not sure what you consider a "strong" rider. I was wondering something along the same lines though... whats the difference between say a 162 Skunk Ape and a wide board from another series the same length? I'm guessing from your comment it'll be a softer board. Dark Series and such. i've noticed quite a few WIDE 157's in other series. i may have to try one like Nivek originally suggested.