Good point actually, where stickz is talking about is definitely double black now that I really think about it. Like he said not because of the steepness or tightness of the trees, but because it is out of bounds, there are unmarked obstacles abound, including open running creek holes, some cliffs and lots of tree wells. If you know where you are going its easy to pick a good line but it is also easy to get yourself into trouble if you don't.
there are double black runs and then there is off piste and further...beyond the rope line; anyway after 10 years there are still places in bounds but I have not gotten the tour and will not go in til I get the tour and do a few laps...to make sure of the entrance, the line and exit.
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