Originally Posted by lastplayboy
Guys I need some advice picking gear for snow boarding. Thanks in advance!
I have been snow skiing for 18 years and have always wanted to snowboard. I am an advanced/expert skier and use stiff boots and high end skis. I rented a few times, but could never afford to invest the time and money into the sport.
I was in Vail and saw a 65 year old guy having a blast just carving s turns on his board and I realized if I don't get started it wont happen for me.
I like to buy high end equipment that is on sale for all my sports. (I am a big fan of buying last year's equipment.) I take care of my stuff and keep it for long periods of time. I feel a pride of ownership that enhances my enjoyment of any sport.
37 years old
200 lbs very athletic
size 11 or 10.5
90% groomed rest would be desire for fresh snow boarding. currently live midwest with yearly trips out west. possibility of moving to the mountains in the next two years.
No parks, no jumps.
Boots Burton SLX
Bindings Burton Diode est
Board Burton Mystery 162 (2013)
Burton Vapor 163 (2012)
Burton Vapor 159 or 162W (2013)
This equipment was selected because of its lightweight characteristics and stiffness, also, it is on great sale so the cost is not a huge issue.
I would like to find the board that I could just spend a lot of time making s turns all over and then hopefully if it snows use in fresh snow. Being in the Midwest, its possible to encounter ice, fake snow, slush, etc. I hope to spend more time in my future out West.
The problem I am having is in deciding between the camber or the flying V base design. I have read about the differences but I would appreciate some real opinions.
What board is best for transitioning turns?
What board is best for Midwest?
What board would be more forgiving for a beginner to grow into?
Thank You !
Now this is the thread for me. I'm 45 years old, learned to ride 5 years ago and am pretty similar physical stats, and I've ridden/owned these boards and bindings, and learned to ride on them. Beware the myth that higher price = higher stiffness = better, this isn't totally true, that's more of a riding style thing how stiff you want your board. Higher price often correlates with lighter weight and better quality, which is pretty much always better however.
Original poster, I assume you're either good at finding deals or budget isn't much of an issue or both.
The mystery and the vapor are both luxury boards, the perform very well, but they're not hard core uber stiff boards. They'll carve down groomers very well, and it will be several years before you need more board than these ones if ever. Burton says that the vapor brings out the best in the rider and that sounds like marketing b.s but there's a seed of truth to it, if find it an oddly easy board to ride. You can learn on them (i did just fine), it might be a little harder than a beginner board but not much. Burton's hard core agressive stiff board is the custom X, which I'd avoid for a first board.
Since you're in the midwest where there's often icy slopes, I recommend the vapor over the mystery. You're a little heavy for the 159 but you're just learning so go with that size. 2013 vapor has a wood core instead of metal which some prefer. If there mostly soft snow where you ride then get the mystery. If you want to buy something that will last for a long time then at your weight go 162 or 163 and grow into it. You're on the bubble with size 10.5 or 11 boots but burton shrinks the footprint on their higher end boots so I don't think you need a wide board, I'd check this in the shop to be sure.
As nivek says your ideal binding for that board is the genesis if you are just learning but if you can only get the diode at a good price go with that, I learned with C60's which are the forerunners to the diode, not a big deal.
More importantly get boots that fit you well, if the SLX's fit you well then go ahead, they're light and pretty stiff but not too stiff.
you'll fall a little more while learning as you'll have less forgiving stuff but it will make you a better rider for it.
lastly although you mention carving turns I think that as non boarder you have inadvertnetly suggested you want a true carving setup, which you probably dont' need.