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Old 12-16-2011, 06:50 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Damping, as noted above, is absent. This makes it unforgiving in rough terrain and a bit chattery when hauling flat.

Grip isn't magnetraction level so you have to be very aware of the limits. It's good for a rocker design but doesn't have the death claws.

It isn't going to float the best in powder if you size for park riding and if you size it up for powder, it's not going to be as fun on rails. It's a hair stout for getting super tech while jibbing where the Draft is good but almost too soft to do anything but rails on.

Even with grip tech, it's rocker so you have to stomp your landings a bit.

There honestly isn't much bad to say about it other than potential durability issues. I haven't experienced any yet, but Before2Day points out he smashed his edge and base doing apparently casual riding which is not up to expectations at all. Some people might find the snap a bit average, I think it's solid.

It's very good at what it's designed for (park cruising and casual approach to all mountain freestyle) and what it's bad at is not unexpected. Big mountain freestyle, bombing very tough and technical terrain and deep, deep powder riding aren't going to be strong.
Ah okay, good review. I just didn't wanna read the whole thing to find this stuff out haha.
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:07 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Ah okay, good review. I just didn't wanna read the whole thing to find this stuff out haha.
Don't ask for information that's already present.
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Old 12-17-2011, 03:25 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Excellent review. It read very well, but didn't sound forced. Maybe you should be a board reviewer.

I'm in the market for a Westmark as well, it seems to fit the profile for the kind of board I'm looking for to compliment my cambered Burton Custom. You weigh like 20 lbs more than I do, and the problem is they don't make the Westmark under 150. How do you think this board would match up for my weight? I'm thinking that although it may not flex as easily for me, the length relative to my body weight might make it a little better in pow for me than it would for you.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:38 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Excellent review. It read very well, but didn't sound forced. Maybe you should be a board reviewer.

I'm in the market for a Westmark as well, it seems to fit the profile for the kind of board I'm looking for to compliment my cambered Burton Custom. You weigh like 20 lbs more than I do, and the problem is they don't make the Westmark under 150. How do you think this board would match up for my weight? I'm thinking that although it may not flex as easily for me, the length relative to my body weight might make it a little better in pow for me than it would for you.
Thanks, appreciate, just trying to get the word out more about this board.

At 125# a 150 would be fine. You're right in that it would blast through pow better for you. I think you'll find it's pretty playful, especially when you get the balance points dialed in for pressing and the fiberglass softens up a little. IMO, the board may not be rail specific but you can still do most anything you want on rails or flatland once you get dialed. If you did nothing but rails and urban stuff, I might point toward a different board but if not, the Westmark kills everything.

It's really a killer package and the only besides the lack of damping that you might not like is the durability. So far, I haven't had any problems but I haven't had it long enough to say it's good, either.

I did Killington this weekend and was blasting off huge back side air ollies off some of pow mounds from the snowguns. Soooo much fun. The thing snaps unbelievably well for a full reverse camber stick.
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It's really a killer package and the only besides the lack of damping that you might not like is the durability. So far, I haven't had any problems but I haven't had it long enough to say it's good, either.
I've heard they're kinda weak in terms of durability. Bummer. I wonder why? I'll take my chances though. I was already sold on the board, but you sealed the deal. I have Malavita Restricted ESTs on my cambered Burton custom. I'll have to try those out on the Westmark.

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I did Killington this weekend and was blasting off huge back side air ollies off some of pow mounds from the snowguns. Soooo much fun. The thing snaps unbelievably well for a full reverse camber stick.
Sounds awesome. There's no worthwhile snow at my local mountain. What's it like at Killington right now? Any decent snowfall or just a dusting with some snowguns? Killington is a great mountain, but sometimes it can be unbearably icy.
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Lots of scattered hardpack and ice but where there was snowgun stashes, it was fun. Cold as hell, though.
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:44 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Hey cheeseforsteeze great review! Im just going to piggy back some of my comments on your thread b/c i dont think my "review" warrants a new thread.

I'm a 125lbs feather weight and a progressing beginner (close to intermediate freeride and a nub in the "park"). I just took out my 153 10/11 Westmark (same board...older graphic) on the local hill. All I can say is, when I was cruising I forgot I was on a reverse cambered "park deck". The thing can definitely rip. Coming from an older 151 cambered custom...I was afraid of loosing that spring that cambered decks provide when railing carves...but honestly...didnt really miss it much after a couple of runs

At the beginning it was a bit sketchy when skating between lifts and flat basing. However, need to keep in mind that this was the first run of the season for me so the first 2 runs i was trying to get my legs back. Once I got my legs/balance back and my body didn't fight itself on every turn, it was a very fun ride. I was too light/weak to flex my old custom to ollie...but with the reverse camber 'preloading' the flex for me coupled with the pop of this deck...i was able to boost off small little push mounds and rollers. I still couldn't butter it (cause I suck)...so Im gonna try and work on that this season. My only regret was that I got a 53 and not a 50 . I wonder if I should try and switch it for a 50...think that would help me to butter...? Or should i just get some skillz? haha :P

Overall...Arbor's got this reverse camber/side cut profile down! Griptech works in real life (echoing BA and Nivek).

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My only regret was that I got a 53 and not a 50 . I wonder if I should try and switch it for a 50...think that would help me to butter...? Or should i just get some skillz? haha :P

Overall...Arbor's got this reverse camber/side cut profile down! Griptech works in real life (echoing BA and Nivek).
If I were you I would have got the 150. I weigh the same as you, and have a 151 Burton Custom (and a 149 Bataleon Evil Twin). With lightweights like us, length is good a tradeoff though... we can get a board slightly longer than what the board manufacturer recommends, and then we can rip more of the mountain with it. The tradeoff is flex though. The longer board is going to be stiffer because it accommodates a heavier rider.

For example, I had a 153 Never Summer Evo and it was slightly more toward all mountain deck due to the length. It was great!
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If I were you I would have got the 150. I weigh the same as you, and have a 151 Burton Custom (and a 149 Bataleon Evil Twin). With lightweights like us, length is good a tradeoff though... we can get a board slightly longer than what the board manufacturer recommends, and then we can rip more of the mountain with it. The tradeoff is flex though. The longer board is going to be stiffer because it accommodates a heavier rider.

For example, I had a 153 Never Summer Evo and it was slightly more toward all mountain deck due to the length. It was great!
Yea no doubt...for one...it was the only one in stock at end of season clearance

2...at the end of the day im still a freerider (that has dreams of incorporating freestyle elements into his riding) so keeping the board on the side of all mountain is fine by me. But yea...maybe I'll spring for a used <150 length noodle just to play around with when im bored.
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I'm a 125lbs feather weight and a progressing beginner (close to intermediate freeride and a nub in the "park"). I just took out my 153 10/11 Westmark (same board...older graphic) on the local hill. My only regret was that I got a 53 and not a 50 . I wonder if I should try and switch it for a 50...think that would help me to butter...? Or should i just get some skillz? haha :P
No, sizing down will not help you butter. Learning how to butter will help you butter (edited per jdang correction)

If you know what you are doing, it doesn't matter what length board you are riding.
If you are bad, you are going to be bad no matter how short a board you get. The board you have is almost ideal - don't delude yourself that skill is one credit card purchase away!

Trust me... no board is going to let you ride like this:



You probably immediately though "what board is that guy riding?" and missed the complete point of my post... sigh. I'll force you to search to find out... but it is stiffer than the Westmark... directional, TRADITIONAL camber board... from 2008.

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