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TRice Split or Arbor Split??

I am trying to decide between the Travis Rice Split or the Arbor Abascas Split. I know they have two diffrent profiles, and are two diffrent boards. Here are my concerns: the arbor might be too soft of a board, and the C2 on the lib will make it hard to maintain traction while skinning. I have lib boards and like the C2, how is the arbor "system" compare? What do you guys think? Any recommendation?
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i think Killclimbz said that the arbor is good for skinning. You should be able to find his review.

I have a t.rice split, honestly unless you are getting a smoking deal (i did), get something with some setback. Unless you ride a ton of switch and throw 1s or 5s in pow why ride a twin?
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I have the c2bx on my billy goat and it is somewhat harder to skin but not impossible. and I wouldn't not get the board based on that fact if you like the ride of the C2.

And fwiw, my friend completely destroyed his abascus's base (core shots, blown out edge) yesterday riding over thin cover. I rode the same crap with my diy rock split and didn't suffer any major damage. Maybe its just bad luck or maybe arbors aren't built as tough as others. But he does like how it rides
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The Abacus did skin surprisingly well for me. The profile gives you a fair amount of contact under the touring brackets. The board is a tad softer than I am used too. I did take it on some big lines and it was fine. The base material is a little soft. Much like Voile's base.

Doesn't lib use extruded on some of their bases? That may not be the ideal way to go but damn if extruded can't tak an absolute beating and barely show a mark. I am starting to think it is not bad at all for splitting.
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The Abacus did skin surprisingly well for me. The profile gives you a fair amount of contact under the touring brackets. The board is a tad softer than I am used too. I did take it on some big lines and it was fine. The base material is a little soft. Much like Voile's base.

Doesn't lib use extruded on some of their bases? That may not be the ideal way to go but damn if extruded can't tak an absolute beating and barely show a mark. I am starting to think it is not bad at all for splitting.
Thanks for the info. Is it Abacus stiff enought to really plow throught the snow? How is the abacus compare to the Trice in regards to stiffness of the board? Just worry that it will be too soft and the rocker tech, that it will banana out.

The only thing I don't like about the Trice, is that it is a twin.
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between those two, having ridden neither - the lib for sure. there are just way way too many anecdotal reports of arbors having soft, easy to damage bases for it not to be a real issue. for sure more than any other manufacturer imo.

you don't want holes and tears in the base of what will probably be your most expensive investment of a setup...
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between those two, having ridden neither - the lib for sure. there are just way way too many anecdotal reports of arbors having soft, easy to damage bases for it not to be a real issue. for sure more than any other manufacturer imo.

you don't want holes and tears in the base of what will probably be your most expensive investment of a setup...
I know the base will be softer, which has a greater chance of being damamged. I was wondering about the actual stiffness of the board not the base.
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I know the base will be softer, which has a greater chance of being damamged. I was wondering about the actual stiffness of the board not the base.
.... and what i'm saying is it doesn't even matter, the arbor is a no-go because its a splitboard that gets thrashed and ruined easily.

but to address that - there are more reasons to want the stiffer board:

splits are split and lose stiffness from being two pieces instead of one;

you'll be riding in the bc - ie ungroomed, pow, chunder, stiffer is better;

and you'll weigh more with bc gear, stiffer will hold up to the weight better with less chatter/flop.
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It was stiff enough to plow through knee to waste deep snow for me. This was in the Rockies and not the PNW. I think the stiffness argument is rather moot. It is as stiff as it is going to be for the split version. Boards that are a tad bit softer are nicer to ride in the pow imo. Not ridiculously soft, but boards don't need to be 2x4 stiff either.

The Arbor does have a softer base. I did end up giving it a beating on my last couple of outings on it. I don't think you hit nearly the shit in the PNW as you do in the Colorado Rockies either. But you will tag stuff at times no doubt.

I got to imagine the T Rice is a stiffer board. I haven't ridden it. Just the Abacus.

Is there any particular reason you are just looking at those two models? There are plenty of other splits out there. I have a feeling that you can get a good deal on those two particular models. Which will do the job.

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It was stiff enough to plow through knee to waste deep snow for me. This was in the Rockies and not the PNW. I think the stiffness argument is rather mute. It is as stiff as it is going to be for the split version. Boards that are a tad bit softer are nicer to ride in the pow imo. Not ridiculously soft, but boards don't need to be 2x4 stiff either.

The Arbor does have a softer base. I did end up giving it a beating on my last couple of outings on it. I don't think you hit nearly the shit in the PNW as you do in the Colorado Rockies either. But you will tag stuff at times no doubt.

I got to imagine the T Rice is a stiffer board. I haven't ridden it. Just the Abacus.

Is there any particular reason you are just looking at those two models? There are plenty of other splits out there. I have a feeling that you can get a good deal on those two particular models. Which will do the job.
No particular reason for the two boards, they are just one that people have recomended to me. All of my solid boards are Libs or Gnus.

I was looking at the jone solution but read they have quality problems.I will be riding around the Calgary area mostly. Do you have any recomendations? I just want a sold trust worthy board that is going to last more than a season.
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