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post #11 of 30 (permalink) Old 12-24-2013, 02:52 PM
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Here is a more personal article with a few more details. It puts a face to the cold hard data and gives you the human aspect. This kind of things really serves as a reminder to not take chances and venture beyond the controlled terrain without the gear and training; even then, make conservative decisions.

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Shane Schroeder, left, and Alex Lee were snowboarding out of bounds at Kicking Horse Mountain Resort when Schroeder was killed in an avalanche.
Photograph by: Schroeder family, submitted , Schroeder family, submitted


Alberta mourns snowboarder who died in avalanche in B.C. backcountry
Not to cast a pall over the reverential tone of the article, or to diminish the tragedy, but isn't the "Shane Would Go" campaign exactly the type of reckless/cavalier attitude and behavior that needs to be re-examined in the wake of what happened? His friend basically says regardless of the risks that Shane would drop.
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Buddy of mine (also named Shane, also 29, also crazy) was just out there on a cabin trip at the same time. Crazy.

Sad stuff. Interested to know the details. Heart goes out to any family and friends.

I live my life one storm at a time.
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Not to cast a pall over the reverential tone of the article, or to diminish the tragedy, but isn't the "Shane Would Go" campaign exactly the type of reckless/cavalier attitude and behavior that needs to be re-examined in the wake of what happened? His friend basically says regardless of the risks that Shane would drop.
I've visited the Facebook memorial page. They want to promote avalanche awareness in his honor. The slogan is contradictory, but they are trying to say something about his positive attitude. Give it time. The wounds are fresh. To have someone yanked away like that is hard to get your head around. I trust that once they move forward, it will happen in a logical way.

The first order of business is to lay him to rest.
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This was on the far side (south) of T2 ridge. If you look at the map, this occurred in the left of "Super Bowl". All of Super Bowl is "hike in only" you access it by taking the gondola, traversing along the top of "Bowl Over" then hiking around T1 or over it. The entire area of Super Bowl is avy controlled and patrolled. You can hike T2 and drop into Super Bowl, but the other side is oob and not controlled or patrolled.

There wad recently a very good article about the shame culture of avy victims. I was quick to point fingers, but at the very least this is a crappy reminder to know your limits and skills, and stay within them.

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As stated.
Convex roll over = unsupported snow. Red flag.
Terrain trap. Red flag.

That slope really doesnt have much going for it. A 2 day ast1 course could have saved this mans life by giving him some basic knowledge. In fact just reading chapter 3 of trempers book could have saved him.
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Maybe ETM.

Let's not forget the majority of avalanche victims every year, have taken at least their Level 1 and are fully prepared. This guy is in the minority. I wish that wasn't the case, but that is the reality.

Do I think if he had of known of the dangers he would not have been killed? Well if he took it seriously, you are right that he might have never of been out there.
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Had they have stayed lookers right in the trees its fair to say everything would have turned out differently.
Its such a shame. Get educated people, even if you just duck the odd rope.
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One of the most interesting and a little eye opening things I found in that book (started but haven't finished) was the chart early on showing all the different kinds of travellers and scenarios you would find, and how it very scientifically and mathematically lays survival rates for those in question.

Doing things a certain way, you might roll the dice, pull the trigger and get lucky a bunch of times, rake in the winnings, but eventually you're gonna get to the chamber that has the bullet in it...

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One of the most interesting and a little eye opening things I found in that book (started but haven't finished) was the chart early on showing all the different kinds of travellers and scenarios you would find, and how it very scientifically and mathematically lays survival rates for those in question.

Doing things a certain way, you might roll the dice, pull the trigger and get lucky a bunch of times, rake in the winnings, but eventually you're gonna get to the chamber that has the bullet in it...
Thats why terrain choice is the big one for me. If I never ride into a terrain trap, or over a convex rollover my chances of getting hurt are seriously reduced.
If you learn nothing else, learn how to identify dangerous terrain.
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Terrain traps or better put consequence is the big one for me. A convex rollover on a stable day that the path just spreads out and doesn't take you over cliffs, into trees, rocks, into a ravine or creek bed. I will probably go for it. If any of the above is present or maybe some other hazard, I will do something else.

Obviously the consequence on this line was extremely high.

Destroy, sounds like you are reading Staying Alive in Avalanche Terrain. Great choice. Re read the terrain and weather sections after you finish. Those two sections contain a ton of useful info.

Remember that 90% of the people caught and/or killed in an avalanche triggered it themselves. That bears repeating. 90%.
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