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A lot of simple information gets disseminated on topics like "how to hit a jump" etc, with little graphics of the lip etc. It would be nice to see more basic knowledge and illustrations of avalanche "how tos" floating around.
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tonicusa, there is a ton of stuff out there. The American Avalanche Association's website has a lot of info.

Avalanche.org - Home Page

Plus it links to other avalanche centers around the world.

I still think the best resource is picking up a book and reading it. Staying Alive in Avalanche terrain is generally under 20 bucks and it is an easy read. If you are seriously thinking about stepping outside the ropes, you need to invest in the gear and take a Level 1.

The class itself is for the recreationalist user. There is no pass fail component. If someone tells you they have a Level 1 cert, all it means is that they may have slept through the class. Of course it is worth your while to pay attention. Same thing goes for a Level 2, which I have taken. It is not a cert, maybe I paid attention or maybe I snoozed. Once you take a L3 course, there is actually a pass/fail component and you have a cert afterward if you pass.

Not to lessen the usefulness of a 1 or 2 class. They are very useful. It also means you will walk away with a piece of paper that says you took the class. It is not like you can fail. Which for me and most people is what we want.

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Thanks Kill! I meant its great to hear guys talking about convex rollovers here and some of the very basics so that young guys (and old) are being exposed to some useful information beyond "board pop". This is a good thread despite the tragic underpinning.
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Not to cast a pall over the reverential tone of the article, or to diminish the tragedy, but isn't the "Shane Would Go" campaign exactly the type of reckless/cavalier attitude and behavior that needs to be re-examined in the wake of what happened? His friend basically says regardless of the risks that Shane would drop.
That slogan "Shane would go" is a rip off of the original EDDIE WOULD GO, as in Eddie Aikau the sufer...

Eddie Would Go...Eddie Went.
No disrespect but thats the only name that belongs in that sentence, period.
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If a phrase brings positivity out of a tragic situation, Eddie wouldn't have minded.
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If a phrase brings positivity out of a tragic situation, Eddie wouldn't have minded.
you are correct and my thinking is a bit selfish. I felt dumb right after hitting submit reply... It just kind of bothered me at the moment. Thank you for correcting me
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It's all good man. I was a huge surfer for 20yrs before I moved to Colorado and that phrase is very positive, and inspired by one of the most inspirational surfers ever. Granted I never knew him but when I think of Eddie I just think of positivity. Imagine him alive today, the world could use a soul like that.
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The class itself is for the recreationalist user. There is no pass fail component. If someone tells you they have a Level 1 cert, all it means is that they may have slept through the class. Of course it is worth you while to pay attention. Same thing goes for a Level 2, which I have taken. It is not a cert, maybe I paid attention or maybe I snoozed. Once you take a L3 course, there is actually a pass/fail component and you have a cert afterward if you pass.
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This is so true. If you are passionate with a thirst for knowledge like I am you can take a lot away from these courses. I honestly believe I took more from my ast1 than the rest of the people did.
I went in primed, trempers book well studied which allowed me to focus on the details rather than strggle to take in the mass of information that the others were dealing with.
I enjoyed it a lot and learned more than I expected.
I have my ast2 coming up in feb. Cant wait.
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L2 is excellent. I think you will really enjoy it. Where are you taking it?

The whole L1 and L2 models look to be changing in the US. There is starting to be a lot of focus on the human factors. I may actually cycle through both L1 and 2 probably next season. Not sure if I'll be a class participant or maybe just a ride along. This fobp thing has forced me into doing things I probably would not have otherwise. I am most definitely better off for it.
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I am doing it in hakuba japan.
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