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Old 02-26-2014, 02:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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some controversy here about the uphill policy after a couple skiers almost got theyself's blown up!

Ski resort considers change to uphill policy after close call - Whitefish Pilot: News

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According to the resort, ski patrol encountered a man and woman Feb. 19 who skinned to the summit of Big Mountain. A patroller told the skiers avalanche control work was in progress in Hellroaring Basin and in the East Rim area and asked the duo to descend the designated route on Toni Matt. A second patroller also asked the skiers to ski down Toni Matt.
The same two skiers were later seen in Hellroaring Basin descending a closed slope where an explosive charge was about to be deployed. Patrollers were able to extinguish the explosive in time to abort.
kinda funny, pretty stupid, but ultimately lame for people who head up with half a brain!
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You can't fix stupid.
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Can we prevent them from procreating?
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Can we prevent them from procreating?
Yeah, they could've just not extinguished the avy bomb that was about to take them out.
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This is why I don't really care for uphill skinning at a resort. During hours you are going against the grain, down hill travelers are going fast and not always in very good control.

Then you have other operations as listed above, snow cat grooming, etc. If I was the ski area operator, I'd shut it down now.

If you need to get a "safe" skin in, there are plenty of options outside of the resort boundaries. If you can't figure out where those are, then you probably shouldn't have backcountry gear anyway.
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Didn't sign up for the full read....... Having some trouble getting my head around just what the controversy might be?

Oh my head hurts today.
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Didn't sign up for the full read....... Having some trouble getting my head around just what the controversy might be?

Oh my head hurts today.
Yeah, migraine city here too. So these people skinned up the resort legally (it seems), were turned around because of the avalanche mitigation work and for whatever reason chose the wrong route to get down? That's what happened?

Not the smartest move, sure, but if they were up there in the legally allowed time frame why was avalanche mitigation going on at the same time? If they skinned up outside the allotted hours then they were trespassing and uphill rule is fine as is so why is it being questioned?

Clearly, I'm not getting the logic here.
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Meh, I am just sick of getting people here and there bitching about resorts not allowing skinning, how it's public land, and their rights are being taken away. It's fucking retarded for the most part. So many other options that are safe without all the bullshit going on.
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the controversy is ongoing, there is a faction that would like for all uphill travel to be stopped, and this incident is being construed into Exhibit 1A
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Meh, I am just sick of getting people here and there bitching about resorts not allowing skinning, how it's public land, and their rights are being taken away. It's fucking retarded for the most part. So many other options that are safe without all the bullshit going on.
Our resort is in a provincial park and is public land. But it's clearly in our rules to not allow any sort of activity that isn't directly related to using the lifts to go up, and slide down on skis/board/tele...

We have a lease with the province to operate the resort and operate it within our definition of safety!

Interesting to read our rules on rope ducking/poaching though. The mountains that surround the resort are public land, so people are free to do what they want on that land. If somebody is caught using the lifts to access that land though, their lift tickets can be cut.
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