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Last season I got into doing more overnight adventures and really enjoyed it. This season I am hoping to do a lot more. Curious if other people have done it, what is in your essential gear list? Weight being an obvious concern, what kind of things did you do to save on weight?

Right now for me, my non-snowboard gear list:

4 season tent
-20C sleeping bag
R5.7 sleeping pad
Jet Boil Sol
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Spot
Titanium cooking pot
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I then of course also pack all of my snowboard avy gear, splitboard, first aid kit. I am thinking this season I might try some bivy camping, as they are way lighter then my 2 person tent.
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i've done some in years past here, not boarding but just snowcaving in the natl forrest...pretty fun if you are not claustrophobic

here's a trick i found: before bed fill your kleen kanteen with boiling water, put a sock around it and take it into your bag with you, toasty as shit (sometimes too toasty!) til about 4 am
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i've done some in years past here, not boarding but just snowcaving in the natl forrest...pretty fun if you are not claustrophobic

here's a trick i found: before bed fill your kleen kanteen with boiling water, put a sock around it and take it into your bag with you, toasty as shit (sometimes too toasty!) til about 4 am
So far, I have only done about -15C for overnight temperatures. The sleeping bag is pretty toasty at that temp. My friends who have slightly worse sleeping bags love that trick though.

I've also been told to eat before bed and it keeps you warm .. I never stop eating, so might explain why I am always warm
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damn, i thought i had invented the kanteen thing, just logical i guess. if your bag is that good then to bivy should be easy, maybe with a windbreak added..that's hardcore

steel wool and a 9v battery is another trick, fail-proof firestarter. back in the day i found this little book at a yardsale called Snowcaves for Fun and Survival, very 70's earthmuffin thing with pics of ppl in fur loincloths and shit, haha, rad. read that and thought what the hell, i'm game. good info in there though for site selection, cave types and windbreaks etc.

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Last season I got into doing more overnight adventures and really enjoyed it.

….I am thinking this season I might try some bivy camping, as they are way lighter then my 2 person tent.
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i've done some in years past here, not boarding but just snowcaving in the natl forrest...pretty fun if you are not claustrophobic

here's a trick i found: before bed fill your kleen kanteen with boiling water, put a sock around it and take it into your bag with you, toasty as shit (sometimes too toasty!) til about 4 am
I was going to suggest the same thing! I did the single person snowcave thing during Cold Weather Mountain Warfare training in the service! A single candle combined with your body heat, and those snowcaves are surprisingly comfy! If you have your full avy kit? You should already be carrying a shovel! So there's no added weight to consider!

And Cass!! Excellent tip on the boiling water & kanteen! I'll definitely remember that!! (I've used a rock from the fire rings before, but that requires some very careful placement to avoid melting gear or skin!)

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Sounds like a cool Naked & Afraid. Watch out for them high beams though!
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Not sure how extreme conditions can get where you going, but my advise to you add candles to your list. If gets really bad few candles can raise the temperature by 3-5 degrees inside the tent.
Snow Cave is good as last resort.A single candle combined with your body heat will create an ice cocoon around you, so make sure you know how to dig it because without proper ventilation you can dig yourself a tomb. From my xp cheap Chinese lighters work the best in cold temps. Don't bring Zippo, they fkn freeze. Keep gas canister warm deep inside the backpack.We also had special sleeves for our cans to keep them warm while cooking.

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A pee bottle works well. Get rid of the urine so your body doesn't have to keep it warm. Keep warm bottle in bag. You don't have to get out of your bivy and lose all that heat. Cotton balls and vaseline work good for firestarter. Keep bootliners in sleeping bag to dry and keep warm.
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Not sure how extreme conditions can get where you going, but my advise to you add candles to your list. If gets really bad few candles can raise the temperature by 3-5 degrees inside the tent.
Snow Cave is good as last resort.A single candle combined with your body heat will create an ice cocoon around you, so make sure you know how to dig it because without proper ventilation you can dig yourself a tomb. From my xp cheap chines lighters work the best in cold temps. Don't bring Zippo, they fkn freeze. Keep gas canister warm deep inside the backpack.We also had special sleeves for our cans to keep them warm while cooking.
In my first aid kit, I keep various things to help start fire, and a small candle. I have been out splitboarding in -38C weather, but blue bird conditions. Generally when planning to camp I avoid it when major storms are coming in.

I've built small snow caves, nothing I have spent the night in yet. I might try it for fun, but otherwise it would really have to be desperate conditions.
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A pee bottle works well. Get rid of the urine so your body doesn't have to keep it warm. Keep warm bottle in bag. You don't have to get out of your bivy and lose all that heat. Cotton balls and vaseline work good for firestarter. Keep bootliners in sleeping bag to dry and keep warm.
Boot liners in the sleeping bag is a great idea. My very first winter camping night I left them in the vestibule and was not happy about it for a while.
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