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**killclimbz** · 08-18-2011, 11:25 AM

Well I went 10 years without a tail kit, so it's not 100% necessary. I also skunked my skins a half dozen times. Had to put them in a jacket and warm them for 30 minutes to get them to work. Voile straps saved my butt a few times too. If you don't have any of those I recommend buying four in the 24" length. I've used them to secure skins, tighten a boot, make a broken ski pole usable, even to make a broken binding usable. They can really save your bacon when you are out in the backcountry.

If you are not worried about the costs, go with the Voile skins and get a Spark Tail Kit. It's nice having the nose attachment already pre curved and such. If you are looking to save a few dollars, go with climbing skins direct. You'll have a tail kit that comes with them and the skins work just fine. In a lot of ways they are easier to deal with than the Voile skins. They just don't look as nice once you finish modding them for splitboard skis is all. At least with me it worked out that way. I of course have zero artistic talent. I can't draw stick figures for fuck's sake...

roremc · 08-18-2011, 07:05 PM

Thanks again Kills. I think I will just bite the bullet and get both. Seems like the sort of thing that could be annoying once you are in the backcountry.

ShredLife · 08-19-2011, 06:13 PM

the tailkit is like a $20-40 bullet out of a $500-$1400 magazine you'll be shooting

(if someone buys a new split.)

also, you can do just fine without the little plastic strappy thing that attaches the tailclip to the skins... on a split they connect at a funny angle so dialing in that strap can be a bitch - i just used elastic/bungee style cordette with my G3 tailclips and they seem to stay on fine - although its a new setup and i haven't put a ton of miles on it yet.... but its fine

snowvols · 08-20-2011, 06:55 AM

That's the nice thing about the G3 tail clip though is that it can rotate more or less pending how you have the plastic strap connected. It will move around until it finds the groove on your board.

jeri534 · 08-21-2011, 05:02 PM

not sure if this has been mentioned but G3 actually has splitboard skins for this season now...

Alpinist Splitboard Climbing Skins | G3 Genuine Guide Gear

roremc · 08-21-2011, 08:14 PM

THat looks great Jeri. Any idea on a cost?

snowvols · 08-21-2011, 09:15 PM

Dang Jeri good find on those. I might have to pick a pair of those up for the new split.

ShredLife · 08-22-2011, 02:39 AM

holy fucking Louis Vuitton... i know they're either gonna be under my feet on the snow or stashed in my backpack but goddamn those are uglier than dog shit.

snowvols · 08-22-2011, 08:18 AM

Little bit of product placement

Who cares what they look like in a fashion sense. They appear to be durable though and that's all I care about

**killclimbz** · 08-22-2011, 09:16 AM

G3 makes very supple skins. They are not as durable as the Ascension skins, but they are so much easier to deal with. As far as how they climb, I believe the Ascensions to be slightly better, but maybe not. Something I seem to remember reading in Backcountry mag when they did a skin comparison.

08-18-2011, 07:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
roremc Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Banff, Alberta Posts: 1,107	Thanks again Kills. I think I will just bite the bullet and get both. Seems like the sort of thing that could be annoying once you are in the backcountry. __________________ So many runs so little time.

08-19-2011, 06:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
ShredLife The Rooster King Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,349	the tailkit is like a $20-40 bullet out of a $500-$1400 magazine you'll be shooting (if someone buys a new split.) also, you can do just fine without the little plastic strappy thing that attaches the tailclip to the skins... on a split they connect at a funny angle so dialing in that strap can be a bitch - i just used elastic/bungee style cordette with my G3 tailclips and they seem to stay on fine - although its a new setup and i haven't put a ton of miles on it yet.... but its fine __________________ get the hell off my lawn.

08-21-2011, 08:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
roremc Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Banff, Alberta Posts: 1,107	THat looks great Jeri. Any idea on a cost? __________________ So many runs so little time.

08-22-2011, 02:39 AM	#18 (permalink)
ShredLife The Rooster King Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,349	holy fucking Louis Vuitton... i know they're either gonna be under my feet on the snow or stashed in my backpack but goddamn those are uglier than dog shit. __________________ get the hell off my lawn.

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08-18-2011, 11:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
killclimbz Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Front Range Posts: 9,179	Well I went 10 years without a tail kit, so it's not 100% necessary. I also skunked my skins a half dozen times. Had to put them in a jacket and warm them for 30 minutes to get them to work. Voile straps saved my butt a few times too. If you don't have any of those I recommend buying four in the 24" length. I've used them to secure skins, tighten a boot, make a broken ski pole usable, even to make a broken binding usable. They can really save your bacon when you are out in the backcountry. If you are not worried about the costs, go with the Voile skins and get a Spark Tail Kit. It's nice having the nose attachment already pre curved and such. If you are looking to save a few dollars, go with climbing skins direct. You'll have a tail kit that comes with them and the skins work just fine. In a lot of ways they are easier to deal with than the Voile skins. They just don't look as nice once you finish modding them for splitboard skis is all. At least with me it worked out that way. I of course have zero artistic talent. I can't draw stick figures for fuck's sake...

08-20-2011, 06:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
snowvols Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,388	That's the nice thing about the G3 tail clip though is that it can rotate more or less pending how you have the plastic strap connected. It will move around until it finds the groove on your board.

08-21-2011, 05:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
jeri534 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 393	not sure if this has been mentioned but G3 actually has splitboard skins for this season now... Alpinist Splitboard Climbing Skins \| G3 Genuine Guide Gear

08-21-2011, 09:15 PM	#17 (permalink)
snowvols Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,388	Dang Jeri good find on those. I might have to pick a pair of those up for the new split.

08-22-2011, 08:18 AM	#19 (permalink)
snowvols Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,388	Little bit of product placement Who cares what they look like in a fashion sense. They appear to be durable though and that's all I care about

08-22-2011, 09:16 AM	#20 (permalink)
killclimbz Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Front Range Posts: 9,179	G3 makes very supple skins. They are not as durable as the Ascension skins, but they are so much easier to deal with. As far as how they climb, I believe the Ascensions to be slightly better, but maybe not. Something I seem to remember reading in Backcountry mag when they did a skin comparison.