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onji 12-07-2011 02:52 AM

How do I know when I've probed someone
 
Humour aside.....

Once you've got an idea of where a burial victim is, and your probing, what does it feel like? Is it something really obvious and 'I'll know when I've got someone' or is it easy to get confused when penetrating different types of snow or hitting other debris?

I've never had to do this, but I'd like to get an idea of what to feel for. Could I simulate the feeling with a buried backpack or something?

Sean-h 12-07-2011 04:15 AM

Pigs are often used to simulate human flesh, not joking. Get an uncooked pork roast, and bury it in the snow along with a backpack and other random items, you now know exactly what is buried where, so when probing, you can get a feel for each item.

killclimbz 12-07-2011 10:59 AM

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The best advice I can say is that you'll know.

I'm am asked that by just about every on snow class I teach for Friends of Berthoud. Since everyone is new to the game, I put a beacon in my pack, bury it, and each person to doing a basic beacon search. Not one of them had a problem telling that they hit my pack with a probe. There is a just a different feel to it. Part of it is that the normal depth you are probing too, is a lot more shallow. If you hit a large rock, you can feel it, so when you hit something softer like a full pack or a victim, you just feel the difference.

onji 12-08-2011 01:28 AM

Thanks Sean & Killclimbz.

Yeah, I've heard about the ballistic similarities between human flesh and pig flesh. I think being a foreigner in Japan makes me stick out enough. Maybe I should huck a whole pig (that's kitted up) up to my local mountain, bury him and start probing..

I'll post photos :D

But yeah, good advice Killclimbz, cheers.


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