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Old 05-25-2012, 11:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So I have been looking into bindings for my split next season and saw that karakoram has a lock down function now.

Is this a must? I have talked to some guys that say it would be really nice to have. I was looking at spark but is this a game changer?
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It's kind of nice. I checked it out at SIA. I will give Bryce and the Karakorum guys credit. It's pretty ingenious in it's simplicity with how their system works.

That said, the Spark Edison, which should come out around the beginning of next year, really looks to up the game. Lighter, easy set up, in other words simple. Out of everything I played with at SIA, this is what stood out of everything I saw. Of course I have no on snow experience with either system, but if the Edison delivers half of it's promise. I'll go with that. Don't be surprised if Will at Spark, comes up with a lock down for us by the end of the season. Even their regular split bindings that work with the Voile System are super nice. They have been in the game for quite a few years longer than Karakorum, and it's starting to show. They have a very well polished line up these days.
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from the K website: " The purpose of the heel lock down is to allow splitboarders to skate more efficiently on flat terrain, and traverse and side step without skins on in tour mode."

IMHO this is completely retarded. you will never do any of this.

we have long flat slogs in out here and i have never wished my heel was locked for it. tour mode without skins on?? it will never happen.


K's are great im sure - they havent been on snow as long as Sparks so there has been a few instances of design flaws over the last year, but they will continue to tweak them

you can't go wrong with either, but sparks is without a doubt more proven and a simpler system.

heel lock sounds pointless to me.


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The heel lock down will be nicer for those who know how to down hill ski. I can only think of one maybe two spots where I would even consider this feature as being something I might want.
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shit if you wanna ski the only way to do it with any style at all is to be an accomplished tele skier.

IMHO its a solution to a problem that simply does not exist and the Ks are wasting time that they could use to make their system less prone to icing and the bending of the mounting plates - both of which are real, documented, and in some cases serious problems.


the more i write the more i convince myself that you (OP) should just go get some sparks - especially if you're new to splitting, especially if this is your only splitboard.


Killz - edison by this fall you think? i heard it wouldnt be ready for the start of next season - presumably because sparks actually torture test their shit with real dirtbag splitters for at least a year before the public gets to get to it...

or you meant next calendar year?
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thanks for the info guys.

Is it worth it to get next years sparks or are this years fine? i think i saw a video with a quick release function.
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Come on, tele isn't the only way to ski with style

I would like a simple heel lock-down mechanism that can be engaged and disengaged without much contortions. I've been in a few situations where it could be useful. Not a showstopper, though.

Current binders from Spark are great, can't go wrong with them. Next year the Edison should be even better, but for now I plan to continue using what I have. We'll see next year.
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Come on, tele isn't the only way to ski with style

I would like a simple heel lock-down mechanism that can be engaged and disengaged without much contortions. I've been in a few situations where it could be useful. Not a showstopper, though.

Current binders from Spark are great, can't go wrong with them. Next year the Edison should be even better, but for now I plan to continue using what I have. We'll see next year.
haha hey fellow NS-splitter - i didn't realize you were on this site too

i KIND OF made that comment tongue in cheek. sarcasm doesn't work too good on teh interwebz sometimes...

but sorta seriously when i see someone really ripping aggressively on tele skis it just makes downhill look almost pussy.


if you truly wanna ski with style ride a fucking snowboard
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lol - agreed, I have lots of respect for tele!

Bottom line: current Sparks work great, Edison would be available next year and will cost much more. If you want to ride now or early next season, and you want to limit spend - get the current ones. They are more than fine - they are pretty great
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ok thx for the info, there are some on tactics so i will see if they go on sale. if they don't maybe i will see what the new ones cost. got all summer to save up lol.
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