Companies getting organized for BC travel - Snowboarding Forum

snowvols · 11-01-2012, 02:59 PM

Found this article pretty interesting,

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Nearly every attendee could tell a story of skiers or snowboarders going through backcountry gates unprepared—sans avalanche gear, with skins on incorrectly, and with splitboards not setup right, etc. Retailers and brands need to take responsibility for educating consumers before skiers and riders buy equipment and during the process.

Snowboard Industry Convenes To Discuss Backcountry Trends | TransWorld Business

wrathfuldeity · 11-01-2012, 03:49 PM

"Retailers and brands need to take responsibility for educating consumers before skiers and riders buy equipment and during the process."

Perhaps cynical, but...shit here we go again...a bunch of clusterfucks trying to ruin some fun. God damm attorneys, MBA's, legislators and corporate fucks.

Imho the responsibility lies with the rider/skier...period. Sure if you offer a guide service or product having accurate information as to the use and application thereof. But dumb fucks are going to be dumb fucks until they figure out otherwise or die. I guess my next bc purchase should be more guns and a sled.

hikeswithdogs · 11-01-2012, 04:01 PM

Ugg yea I think it's the consumers job to have their shit together, if not I call that a darwin award contender.

Of course the reality is an idiot can kill other people in the backcountry too not just themselves.

snowvols · 11-01-2012, 04:05 PM

No you are spot on. It is absurd to think retailers should have responsibility for people who buy their products. That's just asking for more lawsuits. People will continue to push the limits well beyond their own skill/knowledge level and ultimately they pay the price sooner or later. Sucks but having companies take responsibilities is just asking for more law suits to be filled by money hungry people. In my will I have it stated no law suits are to be filled in the event of an avalanche death. It is my responsibility while in the backcountry or at a resort to choose what I ride and when I ride it.

wrathfuldeity · 11-01-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hikeswithdogs

Ugg yea I think it's the consumers job to have their shit together, if not I call that a darwin award contender.

Of course the reality is an idiot can kill other people in the backcountry too not just themselves.

that is what the guns are for

hikeswithdogs · 11-01-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wrathfuldeity

that is what the guns are for

I'm a weight nazi.......to heavy to even carry bear spray while sumer backpacking :-)

**killclimbz** · 11-01-2012, 04:21 PM

Companies should promote awareness. Especially those who are in the business of selling gear that is used in the backcountry. Take responsibility? Not so sure on that. If Joe Blow wants to buy a splitboard, it is not up to the retailer to make sure they are prepared. Joe Blow could buying the board for a Level I they are taking for all we know. snowvols is right, it is up to the person to take responsibility for what they are doing.

wrathfuldeity · 11-01-2012, 04:23 PM

BC gates should merely state.

"You are on your own.
There will be no rescue nor lawsuits.
Are you confident in your skills and
Have been good to your friends?"

poutanen · 11-02-2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by snowvols

Found this article pretty interesting,

I like the line in the article that says the single most important word/summary of the day was "education".

Whether that's simply a large label on BC products stating "EXTREME RISK: Using this product without the proper knowledge, training and experience can result in death... so take an avalanche course eh!?!" or something along those lines might help.

I think what they're saying is as an industry they need to help make people aware of the potential risk involved in BC riding. I think it's a smart move, as the alternative is to wait until it comes to a head after increasing fatality rates.

ShredLife · 11-02-2012, 01:19 PM

natural selection.

11-01-2012, 03:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
wrathfuldeity Resident poet Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bham Posts: 2,701	"Retailers and brands need to take responsibility for educating consumers before skiers and riders buy equipment and during the process." Perhaps cynical, but...shit here we go again...a bunch of clusterfucks trying to ruin some fun. God damm attorneys, MBA's, legislators and corporate fucks. Imho the responsibility lies with the rider/skier...period. Sure if you offer a guide service or product having accurate information as to the use and application thereof. But dumb fucks are going to be dumb fucks until they figure out otherwise or die. I guess my next bc purchase should be more guns and a sled. __________________

11-01-2012, 04:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
hikeswithdogs -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Minnesota Summer--Utah Winter Posts: 958 Blog Entries: 1	Ugg yea I think it's the consumers job to have their shit together, if not I call that a darwin award contender. Of course the reality is an idiot can kill other people in the backcountry too not just themselves. __________________ makingfreshtracks.blogspot.com

11-01-2012, 04:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
snowvols Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,388	No you are spot on. It is absurd to think retailers should have responsibility for people who buy their products. That's just asking for more lawsuits. People will continue to push the limits well beyond their own skill/knowledge level and ultimately they pay the price sooner or later. Sucks but having companies take responsibilities is just asking for more law suits to be filled by money hungry people. In my will I have it stated no law suits are to be filled in the event of an avalanche death. It is my responsibility while in the backcountry or at a resort to choose what I ride and when I ride it. __________________ The journey of me becoming an Ironman and earning the M-dot tattoo http://ironmaninthesnow.wordpress.com/

11-01-2012, 04:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
wrathfuldeity Resident poet Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bham Posts: 2,701	BC gates should merely state. "You are on your own. There will be no rescue nor lawsuits. Are you confident in your skills and Have been good to your friends?" __________________

11-02-2012, 01:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
ShredLife The Rooster King Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,344	natural selection. __________________ get the hell off my lawn.

11-01-2012, 04:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
killclimbz Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Front Range Posts: 9,174	Companies should promote awareness. Especially those who are in the business of selling gear that is used in the backcountry. Take responsibility? Not so sure on that. If Joe Blow wants to buy a splitboard, it is not up to the retailer to make sure they are prepared. Joe Blow could buying the board for a Level I they are taking for all we know. snowvols is right, it is up to the person to take responsibility for what they are doing.

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