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It was definitely the Telluride accident Linville is referring to. Airbags are great to have, but again, no guarantee. In fact sometimes it makes it worse because it keeps you on top of the snow pack. Being on top means that you can pick up more speed. A couple of people in Europe have been rocketed off of cliffs because of this.

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Yep, killclimbz is right, the air bag shredding incident I was thinking of was down in T-ride, not Tunnel Creek.
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I think the trick here is to focus on how to recognize when to turn around and go find some other place to ride.

You guys keep debating technology designed to save your life when the most important thing is to not end up in that situation to begin with.

Yes, if you play the game long enough you will need these tools in one way or another. However, in those cases having anything is better than nothing.

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Ah but you do own the gear wolfie. That is my point. 99% of the people who don't also haven't put the time into learning. There isn't an avalanche I out there worth taking that doesn't require you have the gear in some fashion.

I tour alone frequently in the winter. I still bring my basic gear regardless. If I get buried, yeah that is going to such and I'll probably die. At the very least when rescuer's come to find me, a transmitting beacon will make their job easier, exposing them to less danger. The more likely scenario is that I'll come upon a rescue situation where by having the gear I can assist.
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I think the trick here is to focus on how to recognize when to turn around and go find some other place to ride.

You guys keep debating technology designed to save your life when the most important thing is to not end up in that situation to begin with.

Yes, if you play the game long enough you will need these tools in one way or another. However, in those cases having anything is better than nothing.

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Totally valid, and I think we've made that point. If I am out with anyone who says they think a slope is dangerous but they'll risk it because they have a beacon, airbag pack, avalung, whatever to save their ass. I am going quietly or not so quietly remove myself from that situation. Avoidance is the only guarantee.
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Agonising avalanche rescue caught on camera

I have two points I found were pretty stupid. No gloves, and no shovel handle? Otherwise, I thought it was a valid effort, the guy survived.

And my god woman.

Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
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