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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 04-13-2017, 04:40 PM Thread Starter
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Union highback biting into heel

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Not sure if this is a huge problem for anyone but:

I recently bought some union contacts (absolutely love them), and I've rotated the highbacks to match the 15/-15 angle I primarily ride, but I've noticed that because of the rotation, the lower part of the highback angles inward and bites pretty harshly into my boots.

The bindings are a size medium and I wear size 10 Burton Ambush boots, and after a long day of riding, there is an obvious dent in the boot. Will the highback eventually bore a hole into the boot? Just wondering if its worth rotating the highback at all if it'll compromise my boots : (

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the way union hiback rotations are fixed, I dont even rotate unless u use 18 degree+
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Yeah I was thinking about not even rotating. I know contacts are pretty soft and flexy anyway so just wanted to see if there was a consensus on their rotation mechanism. Meeeeehhhh
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Yeah I was thinking about not even rotating. I know contacts are pretty soft and flexy anyway so just wanted to see if there was a consensus on their rotation mechanism. Meeeeehhhh
Not sure if you noticed, but those highbacks are asymmetrical, meaning, there is less material on the inside of the highback. The reason is to minimize highback bite.

Personally, I suggest keeping the highbacks in the middle holes.

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Wow that was fast as hell response from union. Great support
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Not sure if you noticed, but those highbacks are asymmetrical, meaning, there is less material on the inside of the highback. The reason is to minimize highback bite.

Personally, I suggest keeping the highbacks in the middle holes.

Thanks for the support.
This still doesn't address the problem for people who *do* rotate the highbacks. They are made to be rotated, but rotating them increases the likelihood of them digging into boots. That might be something worth looking into as far as future product improvements, rather than just suggesting that even though the highbacks can rotate, people should just not do it...

All of my Union bindings (Force, Contact, Flite Pro) do dig into my boots, but the wear has been minimal -- I credit the build quality of the boots for this. That said, I do have other bindings (Rome, Burton, Salomon, Now, Rossignol) with which this isn't an issue at all or is less pronounced (although the Now highbacks are fixed so they don't really count).
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This still doesn't address the problem for people who *do* rotate the highbacks. They are made to be rotated,
No, they are not made to be rotated. While it is possible/an option, the highbacks are not meant/intended to be rotated.
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How do you figure that? What are the the holes for, then, and why do their installation guides show how to do it?

https://www.unionbindingcompany.com/...union-bindings

Step 13: To adjust the highback, simply remove the screw on each side (two total) where the highback meets the ankle straps. If so desired, this allows the highback to rotate within the heelcup becoming parallel to the edge of the board.


The installation instructions don't support your suggestion, and UNION_INHOUSE, in his response, didn't even try to suggest that; all (s)he did was suggest keeping them in the centre holes.

I like Union bindings -- I have six pairs of them -- but I'm not paid by them or given free anything by them and I'm not going to defend a weak point in their design rather than suggesting that they try to improve it.

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How do you figure that? What are the the holes for, then, and why do their installation guides show how to do it?

https://www.unionbindingcompany.com/...union-bindings

Step 13: To adjust the highback, simply remove the screw on each side (two total) where the highback meets the ankle straps. If so desired, this allows the highback to rotate within the heelcup becoming parallel to the edge of the board.


The installation instructions don't support your suggestion, and UNION_INHOUSE, in his response, didn't even try to suggest that; all (s)he did was suggest keeping them in the centre holes.

I like Union bindings -- I have six pairs of them -- but I'm not paid by them or given free anything by them and I'm not going to defend a weak point in their design rather than suggesting that they try to improve it.
I wrote that copy, so I'm well aware. I was only giving my personal 2 cents regarding HB rotation. Only one person at the company rotates, and none of our pros rotate either.

I don't see us changing that design in the near future though, at least till we design a new baseplate. Right now our focus is on improving straps, hardware and overall durability.

I appreciate the feedback guys.
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No, they are not made to be rotated. While it is possible/an option, the highbacks are not meant/intended to be rotated.

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