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post #101 of 105 (permalink) Old 01-04-2013, 11:38 PM
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having got my first Union pair bindings today (DLX) I see what you guys mean by the toe straps with the amount of force needed to remove them you would think something would break.
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i don't get it...like its the biggest fault in the world....

just put some down force on the buckle when you try to unlock it...it will be easier!!!!

and yes i have '12 forces...don't complain at all,would live to try new atlas
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I have the DLX and the Force bindings, and that ratchet issue is just with the Force bindings.
On the DLX, the ratchets are much smoother and release a lot more easily. I like the more curved toe strap on the Forces, so I use those with the DLX ratchet on my back binding. On this season's Force bindings, they have longer and slightly thinner ladders for the toe straps, which makes the toe ratchets easier to release.

As for the toe capping problem in the review, the toe straps have to be in the correct 2-position slots depending on what boot size and model you have.
If you have a smaller boot size, you might need to put the into the back slots before mounting them to your board.
I wear size 13 boots, and found that mine cap best with the inside slot at the back and the outside slot at the front. I'm getting new boots soon though so I might need to change that.
In this review it sounded like the toe straps needed to be in different slots.

With the binding off the board, put your boot in and strap the ankle strap. Then play around with the slots for the toe strap underneath until you find which setting allows you to cap it the best. Make sure it's the right length, too. It should be so that the opening in the strap is centered over the boot. This will also make it a little easier to release the ratchet.

It sounded like the toe strap was the only real problem in this review. I'm pretty sure it would work fine if adjusted right.

It's also easier to release it you pull the ratchet up with your index finger while pushing down on the back with your thumb. I've tried just using my index and it's nearly impossible to release, but using the thumb simultaneously gives an easy pop and it's out.

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I have the DLX and the Force bindings, and that ratchet issue is just with the Force bindings.
On the DLX, the ratchets are much smoother and release a lot more easily. I like the more curved toe strap on the Forces, so I use those with the DLX ratchet on my back binding. On this season's Force bindings, they have longer and slightly thinner ladders for the toe straps, which makes the toe ratchets easier to release.

As for the toe capping problem in the review, the toe straps have to be in the correct 2-position slots depending on what boot size and model you have.
If you have a smaller boot size, you might need to put the into the back slots before mounting them to your board.
I wear size 13 boots, and found that mine cap best with the inside slot at the back and the outside slot at the front. I'm getting new boots soon though so I might need to change that.
In this review it sounded like the toe straps needed to be in different slots.

With the binding off the board, put your boot in and strap the ankle strap. Then play around with the slots for the toe strap underneath until you find which setting allows you to cap it the best. Make sure it's the right length, too. It should be so that the opening in the strap is centered over the boot. This will also make it a little easier to release the ratchet.

It sounded like the toe strap was the only real problem in this review. I'm pretty sure it would work fine if adjusted right.

It's also easier to release it you pull the ratchet up with your index finger while pushing down on the back with your thumb. I've tried just using my index and it's nearly impossible to release, but using the thumb simultaneously gives an easy pop and it's out.
this sometimes works... my toe caps dont stay on my boot regardless of where theyre screwed into the straps


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this sometimes works... my toe caps dont stay on my boot regardless of where theyre screwed into the straps
That's interesting.

Do you have a picture? I've never heard of them not staying on the boots before. What boots do you have?

I have a pair of Ride Anthem Boas (shit boots so I'm getting a different pair soon), and at first the cap did slip off and come up over the boot a couple of times. I just tightened the straps down more, which solved the problem.
But my boots are still awkward to fit with their flat and wide toe boxes, so I've just been running them over the top instead of capping them, although I could cap them fine.
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