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Old 02-13-2011, 06:26 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:54 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I have no complaints about my 2011 forces. They feel good, I didn't have any problems with the straps or buckles after breaking them in, they look great and my feet have never been more comfortable. My toe strap used to slip out a bit until I figured out how to use it properly.

found these on easy lougin to illustrate what I mean:





If anyone is considering these bindings I wouldn't let this review scare you away. You can't go wrong with forces.
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:01 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I agree with the above post, these are really good bindings and I still recommend them to my friends. I only bought some Raiden's because I wanted to try something else, since I've only ridden Union and wanted to see what else is out there.
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:24 PM   #24 (permalink)
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For $200 you can find better bindings. And the toe strap is completely redesigned for next year. Think 2009 Cartels, but the gap in between the two straps is twice the size.

I didn't get to try the Unions, they were the only company that gave me gripe about not having test credentials despite the fact I was at SIA. Well done, you made changes people have been asking for, you should be getting as many people on the redesign as possible.

Better than Forces for same or less $$:
K2 Indys
Flux TT30
Forum Republic
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Old 02-13-2011, 09:16 PM   #25 (permalink)
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i just used my 2011 forces, the toe strap blows. especially on moguls or even a black diamond, by the time i reach the lift, the strap is no longer secure and has slid to the top of my foot. the plastic piece literally is useless, its not even made with a grippy material nor is the underside of the toestrap itself. very dissatisfied with my first purchase from union. nothing to support the hype after much research. i had no issues with the rachets, they tightened very quickly. the bindings look great though
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Old 02-13-2011, 11:59 PM   #26 (permalink)
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The only union binding i will ever get again is the contact pro. I dont care for forces that much at all. However, i must say that union buckles are the smoothest i have ever used.
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:16 AM   #27 (permalink)
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It takes time to adjust the toe straps. I find that Union toe straps fit better on bulkier boots (Thirty-Two).
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Old 02-14-2011, 08:42 AM   #28 (permalink)
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The only union binding i will ever get again is the contact pro. I dont care for forces that much at all. However, i must say that union buckles are the smoothest i have ever used.
You must only be refering to the ankle rachet. They are pretty smooth and hold tight...but the toe rachet feels archaic to me
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I have no complaints about my 2011 forces. They feel good, I didn't have any problems with the straps or buckles after breaking them in, they look great and my feet have never been more comfortable. My toe strap used to slip out a bit until I figured out how to use it properly.

found these on easy lougin to illustrate what I mean:





If anyone is considering these bindings I wouldn't let this review scare you away. You can't go wrong with forces.
Excuse me sir, but how many bindings have you tried? How many 2012 Unions have you tried?

My word is not gospel by any means. I am just rather disappointed by all the hype only to have the experience I had. I'm not knocking Union as a company as they are cool as a bees ass during the winter.

I don't even hate the overall binding. Just the toe strap and ratchets. Much, much better designs out there. Plus they don't have canted footbeds which is one of the reasons why I'm considering getting rid of my Flows.

Also, I tried both positions on the redesigned toe straps and it didn't work. Maybe just my buddy's and my boot. Who knows, maybe there's even some type of adjustment we missed seeing as how they are demos.

I stand my ground when I say I much rather own other pairs of bindings. As of now, even if you gave me a free pair of Unions, I'd sell it for something else.

By the way, your post has no grounds here as you are talking about the 2011 Unions and I'm talking about the 2012 models.

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