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Old 02-14-2011, 09:19 AM   #31 (permalink)
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i couldn't get them to look like the second picture no matter what i tried
Do be fair, that pic is of the older toe strap design. That bottom lip in the picture doesn't seem as smiley face curved as the new ones.
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:21 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Yeah that pictures has been floating around for about 2 years now. Kinda mute to post it for the upcoming seasons bindings.
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:43 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I still think it is weird the ratchets didn't work for you guys.
I have a pair of forces and contacts. I honestly didn't really care much for the forces since they seemed to put my feet to sleep with the boots i was wearing at the time.
The contacts have been nothing but awesome for me. but the point im slowly getting to is that the ratchets on both pairs worked perfectly. Super easy to push on then one or two ratchet motions to get them tight and they pop off by hitting the little release.

Sucks hearing about you guys having so much trouble.
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:47 AM   #34 (permalink)
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It's not all the ratchets. Just the one on the toes. I don't get why they do that. The one on the Forces did release better than the Contacts. However, it still took more elbow grease than other companies.
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:01 AM   #35 (permalink)
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hmm, sounds like they messed something up trying to make things better.

Wonder if it is something they'll have worked out by official release.


Also did you get a chance to test out some canted bed bindings? If so would you mind throwing up a review of the ones you tried and what you liked and didn't like about them?
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:08 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Excuse me sir, but how many bindings have you tried? How many 2012 Unions have you tried?

My word is not gospel by any means. I am just rather disappointed by all the hype only to have the experience I had. I'm not knocking Union as a company as they are cool as a bees ass during the winter.

I don't even hate the overall binding. Just the toe strap and ratchets. Much, much better designs out there. Plus they don't have canted footbeds which is one of the reasons why I'm considering getting rid of my Flows.

Also, I tried both positions on the redesigned toe straps and it didn't work. Maybe just my buddy's and my boot. Who knows, maybe there's even some type of adjustment we missed seeing as how they are demos.

I stand my ground when I say I much rather own other pairs of bindings. As of now, even if you gave me a free pair of Unions, I'd sell it for something else.

By the way, your post has no grounds here as you are talking about the 2011 Unions and I'm talking about the 2012 models.

Spank you very much in the flying fish turd swimming upstream into a grizzly bear's mouth. Oh wait, that's salmon.
Woah relax bud, I'm not trying to shit on your opinion or anything I'm just stating mine.

No, I haven't tried the 2012 and no I'm not demoing dozens of bindings each year. Good thing because I'd probably be buying new gear all the time.

When my bindings were brand new the toe buckle was pretty stiff and you had to work a little harder to get them off but they've since broken in and slide nice and smooth. Maybe it's different on the 2012? Have you tried the 2011?

I took the time to adjust the straps to my boot size when I got them and the toe strap kinda grabs on to the tip of my boot and sticks there. Maybe I'm just lucky. But again the strap is completely different on the 2012.

I'm sure there are tons of great bindings out there but these are working fine for me so far.
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I have the 08/09 Force MC. I like the response on the bindings but the ratchets are pretty bad. It does the job of holding my boots in but during couple of cold days at Mammoth, one of the ratchet would freeze up and would not lock down to the ladder. After many mins of struggle I can get it to work but I expect such expensive bindings would have better ratchets. Not tomention the paint peel and chips like nobody's business. Although I like the looks of the 2012 Force SL, think I am gonna look eslewhere, for less money, I can probably pickup a pair of Rome Targa, Ride Double Agent or Flux. All of them have excellent ratchets from what I read on this forum. I just need some good stiff bindings since I mostly free ride and occasionally hit a jump or two.
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Woah relax bud, I'm not trying to shit on your opinion or anything I'm just stating mine.
I am perfectly calm lol. I thought I showed my humor in my last comment.

I was genuinely asking you a question with perhaps a little splash of ridicule. I just keep seeing a lot of hardcore Union supporters that have not demoed a good amount of other current bindings.

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Thanks for the review!

Any information on when 2012 Gear will be available for purchase?
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:07 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Thanks for the review!

Any information on when 2012 Gear will be available for purchase?
The release dates are different for each brand. They also differ according to region. Everything is usually out by October. Some stuff comes out late August even.
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