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Old 12-16-2011, 11:09 PM   #181 (permalink)
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Not quicker when they lay shattered in the Jackson hole trees somewhere. Flows are cheap pieces of garbage.
Dude, I am no flow fan but this kind of comment means exactly nothing about flows.
All is says is you had 1 pair that you broke or maybe they were defective which is possible with every single brand.
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:10 PM   #182 (permalink)
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Dude, I am no flow fan but this kind of comment means exactly nothing about flows.
All is says is you had 1 pair that you broke or maybe they were defective which is possible with every single brand.
most binders are made in china. even i agree with this shit.
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:25 PM   #183 (permalink)
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Dude, I am no flow fan but this kind of comment means exactly nothing about flows.
All is says is you had 1 pair that you broke or maybe they were defective which is possible with every single brand.
Well, it does to me, I have owned around 15 different pairs of bindings. And before that about 7 sets of ski bindings, and I have never had a pair shatter into 100 pieces. I have broken straps, lost screws or had a crack here and there, but my flows blew up into a bunch of pieces. And the real shitter is that flow wouldn't remedy the problem unless i returned all the pieces to them so they could be sure that they actually broke in "warranty circumstances". I grabbed as many pieces as I could just because that is what anyone would do, but that wasn't good enough. I told them they are welcome to dig through the 20" of powder in the middle of the trees if they want. So yeah, Flows suck, their customer service sucks. I spent a ton of money on these supposed great bindings and they broke in the first few days. I don't care what you buy, if it breaks in the first week and the company doesn't hook you up with a new one, your not going to think they make good stuff. Does this comment suffice for you?
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:09 AM   #184 (permalink)
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Well, it does to me, I have owned around 15 different pairs of bindings. And before that about 7 sets of ski bindings, and I have never had a pair shatter into 100 pieces. I have broken straps, lost screws or had a crack here and there, but my flows blew up into a bunch of pieces. And the real shitter is that flow wouldn't remedy the problem unless i returned all the pieces to them so they could be sure that they actually broke in "warranty circumstances". I grabbed as many pieces as I could just because that is what anyone would do, but that wasn't good enough. I told them they are welcome to dig through the 20" of powder in the middle of the trees if they want. So yeah, Flows suck, their customer service sucks. I spent a ton of money on these supposed great bindings and they broke in the first few days. I don't care what you buy, if it breaks in the first week and the company doesn't hook you up with a new one, your not going to think they make good stuff. Does this comment suffice for you?
I've Had Flow NXT-ATs for 3 seasons, and they're a model from 4 seasons ago. Mine have never failed me. The only thing that's happened is a strap broke.
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:18 AM   #185 (permalink)
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Well, it does to me, I have owned around 15 different pairs of bindings. And before that about 7 sets of ski bindings, and I have never had a pair shatter into 100 pieces. I have broken straps, lost screws or had a crack here and there, but my flows blew up into a bunch of pieces. And the real shitter is that flow wouldn't remedy the problem unless i returned all the pieces to them so they could be sure that they actually broke in "warranty circumstances". I grabbed as many pieces as I could just because that is what anyone would do, but that wasn't good enough. I told them they are welcome to dig through the 20" of powder in the middle of the trees if they want. So yeah, Flows suck, their customer service sucks. I spent a ton of money on these supposed great bindings and they broke in the first few days. I don't care what you buy, if it breaks in the first week and the company doesn't hook you up with a new one, your not going to think they make good stuff. Does this comment suffice for you?
100 pieces? Really? If you managed to break them so thoroughly, your snowboarding career would be over. Your leg/ankle would be shattered "in to a 100 pieces".

If I had to take a stab at it, I'd guess you didn't set them up correctly and pressure caused them to weaken. They broke and you left the pieces because you were pissed and had to walk down the hill. When you found out Flow wouldn't warranty them without the broken parts, you cried and fabricated a convenient story.

I have no doubt that every company has manufacturer defects, but claiming a binding can break into 100 pieces is asinine. And if you're exaggerating details, you have no business sharing your story to begin with.
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Old 12-17-2011, 10:33 AM   #186 (permalink)
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the real shitter is that flow wouldn't remedy the problem unless i returned all the pieces to them so they could be sure that they actually broke in "warranty circumstances". I grabbed as many pieces as I could just because that is what anyone would do, but that wasn't good enough. I told them they are welcome to dig through the 20" of powder in the middle of the trees if they want.
So this.
  • You were riding in the trees
  • Bindings mysteriously shattered
  • one binding broke??? both bindings broke
  • they both shattered at the same time in the same manner
  • Where are the pics ??? I know if any of my bindings did this I'd have a pic even if it was from a time before digital cameras

I CALL BS this story just doesn't sound legit. With all the Flow's out there you are the only one to tell a story like this
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Old 12-17-2011, 11:10 AM   #187 (permalink)
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Not quicker when they lay shattered in the Jackson hole trees somewhere. Flows are cheap pieces of garbage.
Oh is that why my Quattros are nearly good as new after 30 days of park riding? Oh nos you broke your bindings. It must be there fault. Cause bindings don't ever brake.
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:11 AM   #188 (permalink)
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I have enjoyed the Flow NXT better than any bindings I have tried before. Love/hate your call, but I love them. Intermediate rider, Flows are great. If you do not like, why post? Just sayin... them improve my skills. Thanks for the input.
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Old 12-18-2011, 11:03 AM   #189 (permalink)
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I have enjoyed the Flow NXT better than any bindings I have tried before. Love/hate your call, but I love them. Intermediate rider, Flows are great. If you do not like, why post? Just sayin... them improve my skills. Thanks for the input.

I posted because I have an opinion. I am sorry that my opinion does not match up with the flow lovers on this site. 2 guys I ride with on a regular basis ride with flows and love them. I had a bad experience with them, and most frustrating with the customer service. Maybe not 100 pieces, but I would say around 25. The entire heel plate shattered. Maybe they were defective, maybe I set them up wrong, not sure. Never owned a binding that shatters if you don't set them up correctly. It didn't bother me that they, broke, nor did I cry about it in the woods, nor did I walk down. The front of the binding was still there so I rode down. I mostly wanted to share the story because I was extremely disappointed in their customer service. Never paid hundreds of dollars for something, had it shatter for what I thought was normal usage, then not get them replaced. I prefer simplicity, and they seem a bit gimmicky to me. I am not a hater, I have no problem with people riding flows, they just didn't work for me.
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Neversumrrider the above was a much better opinion stated but you still forgot why they broke on page 15.
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Hit a harmless tree while riding in jackson and one of my flows literally shattered into no less than 10 pieces.
The story changes a little each time you post.

You crashed into a tree, and yes they can be intimidating to set up. But there are tons of videos, instructions and tips from fellow members. Fact as you stated in your post you hit a tree, maybe not as harmless as you thought.

That is fine, not everyone likes them, not everyone is happy with the 390 boss'es either or any other binding. Again hitting something doesn't mean they "blow" as you stated.
Yes they aren't for everyone, there are pro's/con's to every product in life. A well stated case will help each member make an informed decision.

I truly enjoy mine for the speed and my customer service was super. Just my experience, so now someone can read both our opinions and make an informed choice on what is best for them. That is all we can do to help.
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