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post #1 of 247 (permalink) Old 03-26-2007, 02:24 PM
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flow bindings?

Hey guys thinking about getting new flow step in bindings? How do you like them? any positives or negatives? they seem so convenient. thanks. peace.
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post #2 of 247 (permalink) Old 03-26-2007, 06:03 PM
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dont do it, fella. they so gay. since when is 'convenient' cool? you may get away 2 seconds earlier than anyone else. who cares? you miss out on the whole sitting down with your buds, having a laugh while strapping in ritual. they also a mare getting in/out in the pow. they aint that comfy. and really, you will feel very gay. honest.
post #3 of 247 (permalink) Old 03-26-2007, 06:44 PM
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I researched bindings when I started riding and read such good things about Flow bindings, that I searched out a place that would rent them to me for the season. I rented them, then bought them. Now I have a few pair, on different boards. I wouldn't ride anything else. I find regular bindings primitive when I am forced to wear them.

Clicking in and out when I hit a flat area is a breeze. And these bindings have plenty of performance, just check out Antti Autti or Scotty Lago, team members if you don't believe me.
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post #4 of 247 (permalink) Old 03-26-2007, 06:47 PM
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Regarding "ask's" gay quote above - some snowboarders are way too into fashion and pack mentality, bro, rather than performance and practicality. You can still sit down on the snow with your bros, but you won't be involved in the tedious old-fashioned task of cranking your bindings down while you do it.
post #5 of 247 (permalink) Old 03-27-2007, 01:54 PM
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mmmm ok, let me qualify my post a little. it wasn't from some purist-never-try-anything-new perspective. or from some too-cool-for-skool numpty. it's from experience. I bought a pair of flow and hated them, and ended up selling them after a week and buying a nice pair of P1s. here's why:

1. while everyone was sitting around casually strapping in, chatting, throwing snowballs at each other, whatever, I was standing there waiting for everyone to go, getting impatient cos I was already strapped in. or i'd strap in standing up, and then sit back down again. so it didn't make anything quicker, cos since when do you do shoot off on your own? how quickly do you need to get off a lift? even on a powder day? don't underestimate this - at least if you board with a sociable bunch of people. those extra few seconds mean very little unless you're a loner who loves doing everything right now.
2. you can't strap in when sat down (see point 1) unless you're a contortionist. this often makes life difficult - on steeps; on deeps. you hike through knee deep and pow then try and get in your flows. i tell you, you'll be miles behind your buddies by the time you've sorted that out.
3. getting the hood thing filled up with pow turned into hardpack is a nightmare, having to scrape it all out with your gloves, or your tool. horrible.
4. straps are way more comfortable - in my opinion
5. i ended-up spending so much time fiddling and adjusting all those little ratchets and the torque wire thing, and the forward lean, (see point 4) that in the end straps seemed so much less bother
6. yeah, i admit too, i got tons of grief from my 'mates' too about wearing flows (cos of all the above points - faffing, fiddling, being gay) that combined with the above five points put me off them even more.

the plus sides of flows...

1. errrr you can strap in a tiny bit faster... when you're on a flattish slope... woopdee doo...

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post #6 of 247 (permalink) Old 03-27-2007, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ask
mmmm ok, let me qualify my post a little. it wasn't from some purist-never-try-anything-new perspective. or from some too-cool-for-skool numpty. it's from experience. I bought a pair of flow and hated them, and ended up selling them after a week and buying a nice pair of P1s. here's why:

1. while everyone was sitting around casually strapping in, chatting, throwing snowballs at each other, whatever, I was standing there waiting for everyone to go, getting impatient cos I was already strapped in. or i'd strap in standing up, and then sit back down again. so it didn't make anything quicker, cos since when do you do shoot off on your own? how quickly do you need to get off a lift? even on a powder day? don't underestimate this - at least if you board with a sociable bunch of people. those extra few seconds mean very little unless you're a loner who loves doing everything right now.
2. you can't strap in when sat down (see point 1) unless you're a contortionist. this often makes life difficult - on steeps; on deeps. you hike through knee deep and pow then try and get in your flows. i tell you, you'll be miles behind your buddies by the time you've sorted that out.
3. getting the hood thing filled up with pow turned into hardpack is a nightmare, having to scrape it all out with your gloves, or your tool. horrible.
4. straps are way more comfortable - in my opinion
5. i ended-up spending so much time fiddling and adjusting all those little ratchets and the torque wire thing, and the forward lean, (see point 4) that in the end straps seemed so much less bother
6. yeah, i admit too, i got tons of grief from my 'mates' too about wearing flows (cos of all the above points - faffing, fiddling, being gay) that combined with the above five points put me off them even more.

the plus sides of flows...

1. errrr you can strap in a tiny bit faster... when you're on a flattish slope... woopdee doo...

Ask
Wow...nice...lol i love the saying at the last part
post #7 of 247 (permalink) Old 03-30-2007, 07:36 PM
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You have alot of good points "ask" but your number 1 reason about "talking to your buds while straping in" and whatever has 0% to do with a review on a product
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Ok, I've used them and I have enough of an I.Q. to formulate an actual intelligent, cohesive sentence that describes my feelings about step-ins. They're gay...no wait, that's not what I meant. I honestly didn't care for them. Maybe it was a mental thing. I felt like I wasn't really strapped in. Not to mention my boots weren't stiff enough to make up for the feeling real bindings give me. I felt really loosey goosey going down the slopes. I had a heck of a time on hard turns.

On the positive side, they were very convenient. I could even step right into them off the lift instead of riding with a foot on the stomp pads.

Still, I didn't care for them simply because of the way they performed. I snowboard with my fiance and not a group of friends. She skis so she usually has to wait on me to strap in. It was nice to go right off the lift, but I just didn't have as much fun during the ride.

It's completely personal preference, though. You'll have to try both to really figure it out.
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post #10 of 247 (permalink) Old 07-22-2007, 07:45 PM
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don't get the flows unless you're just gonna go cruising. my boyfriend had burton cartels then transferred to flows and after about half the season, (4 months) they became really loose and he was having badddd ankle problemss.
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