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tonicusa 01-08-2014 05:02 PM

Burton Genesis Alternative
I've been riding the Burton Genesis EST and its a binding I like a lot. Im planning on picking up a non-est pair for my non channel boards. But I wanted to make sure Im not overlooking anything else that might be a good match for my riding.

I ride mostly medium stiff cambered boards, predominantly pipe, kickers, some all mountain. Im always interested in any new tech that might give me just a little extra pop or excitement to my riding.

I am interested in trying the Union Contact Pro and the Salomom Holograms, primarily because of the flexible baseplates which I like for longitudinal flex.
Any suggestions shred heads?

Mystery2many 01-08-2014 05:18 PM

I have the 2014 Genesis and the 2013 Hologram.

The genesis is all around a soft comfortable binding. The hologram has a hair more response and great tip to tail flex.

I think what separates them the most is the ankle strap. The highbacks have a similar tip to tail feel but the hammock ankle strap is super soft and allows you to butter around without any tight areas.

They both take a little getting use to and I love them both.

If you already have the Genesis then I suggest you try the Hologram and see what you think. You can always sell it if you don't like them. :thumbsup:

tonicusa 01-08-2014 05:34 PM

Wow that's interesting, I never would have thought the Hologram would have more response with that wire system. Im glad I asked. Does it have better tip to tail flex than the reflex baseplate in the Genesis? Im less interested in butters but loading and popping the tail. Thanks Mystery

Mystery2many 01-08-2014 05:47 PM

It's not easy for me to explain but I will try.

The hologram seem to get better pop and ollies out of my Proto HD. I have guessed as to why but I'm still gathering my thoughts on it as well. lol


The reflex gave better board flex and feel but I think that's what took a little pop away. Let me explain. I put the hologram on one end and the Genesis on the other and flexed both directions at the same time to compare. The genesis you could see the board flex through the bottom of the base to give it a smooth continuous bend in the board. The hologram you could see bend or flex point in the board right at the outside of the binding which I think gave the tip/tail a little more tension resulting in a little more pop.

I still get great pop out of the genesis but I just gotta load it a hair more.

My method was better in the genesis from the soft ankle strap but my pops and spins were better in the hologram. Both are amazing bindings and I will keep both. They get an even score in my book and I will be putting the holograms on my next board. But the Genesis seem like they were made for the Proto. LOL.

tonicusa 01-08-2014 06:01 PM

That makes sense, I get it. That's why it's always best to make your decisions based less on the theory and more on just what happens in reality.

Im going to pick up a pair of holograms. Do they have any length adjustment in the heel cup like Unions?

Mystery2many 01-08-2014 06:16 PM

No. The toe ramp adjust. Straps. High back. And the disc has a fair amount of adjustment in the slotted holes.

tonicusa 01-08-2014 06:19 PM

Thanks. Im going to try the Hologram and the Contact Pro.

Mystery2many 01-08-2014 06:22 PM

I wanted to try the contact pro out really really bad. Will you come back and tell us what you think and how they compare?

tonicusa 01-08-2014 06:27 PM

Of course. Ordering now.

Triple8Sol 01-08-2014 08:42 PM

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I just sold my Holograms. They were comfy, but after 3 days I decided they just weren't for me. Definitely took the entire first day getting used to them, and tried them on my Nitro TG and NS Proto HD. My buddies swear by theirs, but I'm sticking to the Now bindings I would like to try the Quantums eventually to see if the extra response would be a better fit.

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