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In the Market for a very stiff responsive binding?

I just recently got a T Rice pro HP 155cm board and im looking to get a pair of very responsive and stiff pair of bindings.....I have a couple different kinds in mind. i would like to stay old school and prefer straps then the step in bindings like the Flows or Gnu bindings .... im leaning towards buying a pair of Union Chargers but would like to hear some of your opinions on stiff responsive bindings and the other brands/models that are out there..and if you have any experience with union charger bindings i would like to hear that as well

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Haven't ridden these but I think they're supposed to be really stiff.

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Union Charger, and Flux DL or DM were gonna be my suggestions. I just don't like those Ride full aluminum chassis and baseplate.
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Union Charger! Not a fan of Ride bindings either.
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I have the El Hefe's and really like them. I'm not very good, but not really a beginner. I can do 30 deg groomed slopes smoothly. I like the straps on the ride bindings. The toe strap is made in a way that it rarely slips. I've lost it one time. I don't know why people dislike the aluminum chassis, it seems really tough. I'd much rather have it than plastic.
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Union Factory is another good responsive binding option. I'm a big dude on a big board and they work good for me. Had the Ride Capos and I agree with linville and Snowdog about the aluminum chassis. They're just not for me and I was really glad to go back to plastic. The Capos just felt clunky to me I don't know why. But YMMV of course.

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I've lost it one time. I don't know why people dislike the aluminum chassis, it seems really tough. I'd much rather have it than plastic.
It won't flex. At all. IF they do flex, they bend. I bent the shit out of my SPi's. Even if you don't bend the shit out of them, they create a dead spot in your board that doesn't allow it to flex naturally. All bindings do this to a degree, but it seems noticeably worse with that big chunk of rigid aluminum screwed to your board. Plus, they seem to fatigue the hell out of my feet. I assume it's because they're not flexing in the least which translates more strain to the feet.

No offense meant and please don't take it as such, but you're probably just not good enough to understand why some people don't care for them in terms of how they ride. I originally picked up the SPi's when I was probably about your level and had a similar thought process to yours that aluminum had to be better than plastic. As I progressed, I changed my mind.
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Baseplate on the Ride bindings I own are to wide. My boots which are Vans have a half inch gap on either side at the toe strap. With enough force movement seems more likely. So maybe its just my boots.
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The Burton Diode is my go to binding. I used to use C60s but these are every bit as responsive, but much more comfortable. In comparison I bought Cartels for a play board and find them soft...

If you want response, they've got it!

Apex Sport, a race board retailer out of Canada sells them exclusively for boardercross and softboot freeriding and carving.

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Even if you don't bend the shit out of them, they create a dead spot in your board that doesn't allow it to flex naturally. All bindings do this to a degree, but it seems noticeably worse with that big chunk of rigid aluminum screwed to your board.
This is probably the reason I thought they felt clunky as I mentioned. I just didn't know how to explain it. The other thing I didn't like about the aluminum was keeping the screws tight on them. Seemed more susceptible to loosening than the plastic baseplates I've used. It wasn't horrible, but they'd get loose every now and then and that was in spite of my checking them before every day out. Tried the nail polish thing and that didn't seem to stop it either.

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