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Old 04-14-2014, 07:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I've used Flows continuously for the last decade and have just switched to Union two-strap bindings.

I haven't used the Unions yet but my reasons for switching from Flows are as follows:
- Highback falls down regularly when skating (like in lift queues)
- Not compact enough for storage due to the big I-strap (newer Flows resolve this I think)
- When you're no longer a beginner the benefit of being able to get in and out of bindings quickly is not as big as you don't need to take off your board as often (not getting stuck as often and better at keeping speed on cat tracks and traverses)
- More options across many brands if you go two-strap

My wife also ditched her Flows a season back and has been riding some Rome bindings. She got sick of the mechanism that clips up the highback getting full of snow and not holding.
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Old 04-14-2014, 07:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Those are pretty much the same reasons I purchased Burton Cartels at the end of this season.
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Old 05-04-2014, 01:32 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Same here, went from Flow NXT-FSE to Burton Cartels. I have slightly better control and can ride faster. Flows were fine for the first 2 years but then one starts to prefer better control instead of fast entry.

I would recommend Flows to beginners any time, but not to intermediate/advanced riders. I have to say Flow has very good build quality in comparison to Burton for the same price. Everything from Burton feels cheaper, although works better.

I had Flow Rift quickfit boots but during warm days they made my feet feel they were full of water (poor moisture wicking) and gave me blisters on ankle due to skin becoming soft. They were built very well, very durable, but due to this problem had to be replaced by Burton Ion and I never had this problem ever since.

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Old 05-04-2014, 03:07 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Just a couple of updates on this subject, since the thread has been revived. As mentioned before, I'd been swapping bindings and boards around the last month or two of this season. I've been using a Heritage and a Proto, and NX2-ATs and Targas. What I found was that I could feel a difference in responsiveness with the Proto -- significant enough that I won't use Flows on the Proto any more. On the Heritage I didn't notice much of a difference. I noticed more of a difference between the NX2-ATs and my older NXT-ATs.

If I was still riding at Seymour, where the runs are short, I don't think I'd want to give up my Flows regardless (I can get down the Mystery run in 4 minutes and that's the longest run). On Cypress where the runs are probably twice as long and can take 3 times as long to ride down (more challenging), the strap-in time is less of an issue and things like the highback getting in the way when you're skating becomes more significant.

For the short term, I'm going to keep my Targas on my Proto, the NX2-ATs on the Heritage, and the old NXT-ATs will go on my Ride Havoc for summer balance beam work. Longer term, I'm going to buy some new traditional bindings like maybe Unions or something, and move the Targas to the Heritage.

Partly this is also because I'm doing more off-piste and park stuff, and I think you do notice the difference a bit more in those circumstances. I'm not going to diss Flows or criticize anyone for using them. It's a personal preference thing. And understand, we're not talking light-years worth of difference. The difference is subtle and may not be enough to override the convenience. As with everything, YMMV.
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Old 05-06-2014, 06:04 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I used the flows and contraband stuff for a couple years. Honestly, i think there is a point at which you move from trying to get more runs then everyone on the hill to trying to get your own best performance. And at that point you move to 2 strap systems.

Personally I found that the flex hinge bindings like burton re:flex binding and forum republic and shaka, make a huge difference in board flex and feel. I would not go back to a one strap or step in system.
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Old 05-14-2014, 04:59 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Hello I would like to buy a pair of 2006 Flow NXTFS mens bindings , and board , If you can help me find any I will pay finders fee.
Thanks Snowblossom @ lizbearinc@gmail.com
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Old 05-14-2014, 06:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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no need to post this 15 times we get it. You are looking to pay top dollar for outdated shit. Awesome. Now Stop bringing up old posts. It is un necessary.
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