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Old 04-23-2014, 12:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So it took me a long time and a bit of cash to get my boots comfortable. This season I upgraded my board and bindings with an eye to grow into the equipment. For the bindings I picked up a pair of Union MC Metafuse, I liked the idea of the lightness and they were rated stiff which matched my board and boots. I needed to return the first pair to size up. But I have to say after a number of adjustments I'm now getting foot pain that I never encountered with my old (05-06?) Burton Cartels, green and white. I've got absolutely no beef with the craftsmanship, I just think it might be a bad fit. I have super wide 4E Fred Flinstone feet and I'm just wondering if either the lack of padding or sizing could be the cause. Have any of you ran into this and especially if you have a wide foot what was a better alternative? I would like to stay with Union, but would choose otherwise for more comfort.
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What boots are you riding Rob?
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Salomon? I should have asked in the last post, but where exactly is your foot pain?
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Salomon? I should have asked in the last post, but where exactly is your foot pain?
Ha, yeah Salomon. Both feet right by the toe buckle. Have moved the straps. Front foot by the edge of my instep. Both feet by the ankle strap buckle. Also, no matter how much I crank them down I still seem to get slippage under the toe cap. I've adjusted the straps, but I can't say I've used all the adjustments. Landing jumps also feels like there's no cushion, but that could be because of my weight. I'm thinking I may have bought beyond my ability and need something with more padding and forgiveness.
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Ha, yeah Salomon. Both feet right by the toe buckle. Have moved the straps. Front foot by the edge of my instep. Both feet by the ankle strap buckle. Also, no matter how much I crank them down I still seem to get slippage under the toe cap. I've adjusted the straps, but I can't say I've used all the adjustments. Landing jumps also feels like there's no cushion, but that could be because of my weight. I'm thinking I may have bought beyond my ability and need something with more padding and forgiveness.
The easy thing for me is to blame the boots. Honestly though, we don't get a lot of comments about foot pain in the areas you're getting it.

Can somebody else chime in that rides the Synapse boot? I've always been under the impression that it's a comfortable model.

Another thing to think about, is that your feet need to get used to snowboarding. The first days of the season always hurt, but the muscles in your feet get used to the boots and straps, and the pain goes away. If you don't ride a lot, this could be the main source of the problem.
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Maybe you are cranking down on the top cap/strap too much thus causing pain on the foot? You did mention that it doesn't feel stable and there it's slipping? Perhaps you are overcompensating for the slippage by cranking down on the toe cap / strap too much. Or if the toe cap isn't center, you will be get pressure points on the boot.

Perhaps you can take a picture of your boot in the binding and post it. Picture is worth a thousand words.
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The easy thing for me is to blame the boots. Honestly though, we don't get a lot of comments about foot pain in the areas you're getting it.

Can somebody else chime in that rides the Synapse boot? I've always been under the impression that it's a comfortable model.

Another thing to think about, is that your feet need to get used to snowboarding. The first days of the season always hurt, but the muscles in your feet get used to the boots and straps, and the pain goes away. If you don't ride a lot, this could be the main source of the problem.
For once I can say it's not the boots I rode 13 days last season and 7 this season with the boots in my old Cartels with no problems. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm an anomaly regarding foot issues: mine are seriously freakish. As for days spent riding I have 13 in the Union's and while I certainly don't think that's nearly enough, I also don't think it's too little. I will certainly tell my wife that I need to ride more next season on the advice of trained professionals though
I'm gonna continue to play with adjustments and see if I can be more specific.
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Maybe you are cranking down on the top cap/strap too much thus causing pain on the foot? You did mention that it doesn't feel stable and there it's slipping? Perhaps you are overcompensating for the slippage by cranking down on the toe cap / strap too much. Or if the toe cap isn't center, you will be get pressure points on the boot.

Perhaps you can take a picture of your boot in the binding and post it. Picture is worth a thousand words.
Toe cap is centered, cranking down could be part of the cause, but then what to do about slippage? I'll take a picture this weekend and post it. I can return the bindings, but to be fair I'd rather try to figure it out and become a bit more knowledgeable and attuned to my equipment. I am not a mechanically inclined person but am planning on setting up both a snowboard and bike work area this summer to start to change that. I'm lucky enough to have a garage in Brooklyn, I figure it's time to put it to better use than strictly storing junk in.
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My toe caps on my Unions slipped as well. I had to frankenbinding them out with a toe cap from another binding. Mine were the 2012/2013 Asadachi 5 (which from my understanding is mix of parts, but also a color. I'm not sure, but I thought I read that they had a base from one binding and highback straps from another...I could be totally wrong. As I also read that Asadachi is only the name of a color/pattern. Meaning wood).
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