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Worth upgrading from Burton Custom bindings on Jones Mountain Twin?

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#1 ·
Been using Customs on an old Burton Elite board, about to pick up a Jones Mtn Twin (2013/2014) and wondering if it is worth upgrading the bindings.

People say the Cartels are a good binding for the board -- noticeably better?

Thanks
 
#4 ·
I'd say it's worth it. I'm not saying customs are a poor binding by any means but the Cartels are just much better. You get much more comfortable ankle/toe straps, auto can't footbeds, stiffer highjacks etc. I think the stiffer setup would suit an all mountain board like the mountain twin better than that which the customs can provide.

I use the Cartels and Genesis' and they're both great. Can't really fault either of them.
 
#9 ·
So, TTs are shit and Rome 390 build quality > Cartel build quality? LOL! Where in the hell are you finding these reviews? A lot of people really like Rome bindings, but there's probably been more threads on here about quality issues on Rome bindings than all other binding manufacturers combined.
 
#10 ·
Sorry, said that the TTs didn't seem very popular as they don't have many reviews out (good or bad)

And yeah, saw some ppl with quality issues from the Romes but lotta people say they're better feeling than the plastic cartels. And supposedly more comfy.

I don't really know what I'm doing tho -- would you take cartels over 390 bosses?
 
#16 ·
Having second thoughts now after ordering the 390 Boss. Looking at older threads people seem to say 390s are medium flex and more park oriented, whereas Cartels are stiffer and more all-mountain.

For a board like the Jones MT and my all mountain riding style, should I go with the cartels? Or are the newer 390s stiffer or do ppl not know what theyre talking about?

Thanks guys
 
#22 ·
The 390 I rode (2012) were not soft by any means. I put them on a Cobra and they fit just right. Is the Jones MT considered stiffer than the Cobra?

The Cartels used to be stiffer but several people now say they are softer than Malavitas. If anything they're close.

The Rome performed okay but comfort was never great with me, and it just started falling apart real fast. For fit and finish, I preferred Burton's higher end (Malavita).

Really though, just be happy with what you get they all ride quite similar I'm sure. Fit with your foot/boot most important.
 
#19 ·
Cartels are definitely more responsive than Rome 390 Boss and generally better design and lighter (though I think they've shaved some weight from the recent years 390). The 390 ankle straps do feel super comfy but the thinner, firmer straps of the cartel are 100% comfy and feel like the perfect balance of comfort vs response. Cartel toe straps are way better. I have a pair of each and the Cartels have been what I've actually ridden all season, even my NS Evo. The 390s are good but the Cartel are just better.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Can you ride the board yet?
(ie is there any snow left where you are?)

If so, just give it a try with the Customs and see what you think. If all seems fine, dont worry about it. If you're left wanting something more, then let the idea mature after riding a little and decide... if you can't ride yet, dont bother buying bindings now based on other people's thoughts for next yr. Buy em next yr once you're clear what you want.

I think Cartels would be good for solid all around.

Other mid flex but still good responsive options could be: Genesis, Atlas, Ride Capo. You'll definitely notice the increased response... i think totally worth it, unless you find yourself riding mostly park or something.....
 
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