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Old 06-12-2014, 09:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Sizing issue for Union force or burton cartels

I want to buy either some Union forces or Burton cartels.
I am currently using Chris Bradshaw 32 lashed boots in size 10.5
What size is going to work best in either binding and what are the pros and cons of moving up to large.
I'm currently using Rome 390 bosses in large/xl but at times find them unresponsive for quick turns and carves
I am in 3rd year of riding in New zealand
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Old 06-15-2014, 03:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Large and both brands.
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Ok thanks...reasons for large over medium... I have to buy online and online help at dogfunk reckoned I should go with medium for better response...I'm not disagreeing with you , just want some feedback on your argument for the large size ? At this stage union forces are my pick
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M size Burton bindings should fit and are probably the better choice if seeking more responsiveness. Worst case get some size L straps.
But in my experience the difference in response between the Rome and Burton bindings is pretty negligible.

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how much do you weigh?

The l/xl are stiffer in the highback more fiberglass for unions.


I dont' like burton bindings, they are hard to center with a 10.5.

I wear the vans cirro and aura in 10.5 and they fit fine.

The union bindings are pretty adjustable.

Thirty two boots are high volume boots unless they changed them.

On the unionare usually have it set at "1" on the heal cup. it can be put in more for smaller sizes.
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Burton cartels will be for when I progress but for now wana play around on skate banana and read and heard union force is a great match for board and early intermediate rider... I have a flow solitude 159 with Rome 390 bosses for powder and fast riding
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24werd. Thanks for reply... I am 75 kg exactly without any gear on. 175cm tall
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Yeah the guy from dogfunk said the 10.5s will fit in and the mediums will be a bit softer and forgiving.guess I could go try boots on unions in local store but they sooooo expensive here in nz. I've bought my boots last year and a new lib tech banana there this year so I could just be straight up with them and say just wana try em on
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I have only tried Union bindings in one size (and it was the carbon ones anyway), so I cannot really comment on how much difference the extra glass in the highback makes. Probably not that much when using proper technique, but many people are really flexing into the highback for all heelside turns so it could matter for them.

I do not think there is any difference in inherent stiffness between sizes for Burton.

Leaving aside the glass content, a smaller binding should give better response because there is less 'slop' between the boot and the binding and also the binding flexes the board better.

Anyway, if you have bought stuff from the shop before I would not feel bad about trying stuff even if you have no intention of buying from them this time around.
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And to add, all of these bindings (including the Romes) should be definitely more than responsive enough for a Skate Banana.
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