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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 07-27-2014, 04:34 PM Thread Starter
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Union Altas '13 Toe Straps / Ratchets

Hi There Guys,

First of all, I'm new to the forum so.. Hi Everyone!

So I got myself some Atlas 2013s last year and I am having a major problem getting the toe strap ratchet to release. I've even had to unscrew myself a few times. It's mainly my lead foot but the other one has been fairly hard also. I've heard some complaints about the Union toe straps being shite so just curious it anyone else has had this problem? I know some boots shapes can be an issue with them as well. I have Vans Encore boots if anyone has any idea about the shapes that don't work.

I've also read that they have reduced the pressure on the toe straps from 10lbs to 7lbs for probably this reason. Anyone know if this is the case and the newer vesion does alleviate this problem?

Also, if so, how would I go about swapping the straps/ratchets I've heard people have a few problems getting Union spares. I've seen some stuff at c3-shop but just want to make sure I'll be getting the latest hardware, if it does infact help. The springs in the ratchets are fairly loose anyway from trying to force them open so many times.

Or should I just switch bindings? I've had Burton Bindings in the past and never had this exreme a problem getting undone.

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The Atlas is a decent binding. Just shoot Union an email explaining your issue and that you'd like to keep riding the bindings and ask for new toe straps and ratchets. Ask for the ones that come on the new Force.

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Thanks mate. I flicked them on an e-mail, but if anyone else has any infor please let me know.
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Tried on my unused 2013 MC Metafuses for the first time and found the toe strap ratchet very stiff. Applied enough pressure on it to feel like I could break it before it moved.

Might be a common thing for Unions?

I hear their support is great so I'm not concerned
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Cheers dude, hopefully I get that kind of service soon before my next mish!
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They have a couple of company dudes who are forum members so you'll probably hear from them when they next keyword search 'Union'
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Ouch. Ok.

Well hopefully it's not the case, but if that does happen I'll be going back to Burton. Decided to try Unions because Hype + Travis Rice does seem to work on me.
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I have the same model and yeah it's not the best ratchet but I was able to manage. If you fit it properly to your boot and don't over tighten when strapping in it's not so bad. Some people have better luck than others, but generally speaking pre 2014 Union toe straps just blow.

From what I've heard they significantly improved the ratchet last season and their customer service is solid, so if you've already emailed them you should be on your way to solving the problem. On the other hand there are other options out there with better straps and ratchets so really just depends if you want to stick with Union or try something new.
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Well they are brand new bindings and so far that's the only problem, so I wouldn't mind not having to shell out for something else. To be honest I didn't get many days in after I bought them last year so haven't had time to judge on how they feel to ride because the only thing that's stood out is the pain in the arse of the ratchets, unfortunately.
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Well it's a solid binding otherwise, I'd just take some time in the off season to get all the adjustments dialed in and to get a feel for the right release point. Don't over tighten and don't force it when it sticks and you should be OK. If it continues to be a problem Burton's toe caps and ratchets are money, I ride both the Atlas and Cartels and would probably just flip a coin if I had to choose between the two.
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