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For You Aussies Strewth Bindings

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#1 ·
#2 ·
It's actually their second attempt at fundraising the project!!!!!

Launched on Idigogo about 12 months ago!!!!!

While the tech looks pretty good, one major complaint (and has been a real turn off) is the name "Strewth"!!!!!

For us guys Down Under, it's the equivalent of someone in the States callin their new bindings "YeeHaws", or "Shin Digs"!!!!!

* Disclaimer - Maybe some people like these names?????
 
#8 ·
….one major complaint (and has been a real turn off) is the name "Strewth"!!!!!

For us guys Down Under, it's the equivalent of someone in the States callin their new bindings "YeeHaws", or "Shin Digs"!!!!!

* Disclaimer - Maybe some people like these names?????
Can't recall exactly where I heard it used, other than I'm sure it was on TV or a movie or sum shit but, I was under the impression that "Strewth" was actually a sort of drinking toast of sorts. …No?

Is it really the down under equivalent of some ******* shouting out Yee-Haw???

So if I undertand the usage you're describing,… You're "Gacked" about nailing your run down the triple black or mogul run or sum shit and you'd be shouting "Strewth" on your way down???? Somehow, it Just seems like a strange combination of consonants to be shouting out in excitement to me! :dunno: :laugh:
 
#3 ·
Firstly, the name is terrible, but is bending down to strap one binding really all that hard? It generally takes about 5 seconds depending where you are standing.

If someone wants to invent something, it needs to be an engine powered snowboard to take you back up the hill.
 
#6 ·
I think you are missing the appeal for many gummers like me. The issue is not the time saving, it is the bending down, getting on our buts and cranking. it starts to hurt when you get old and or out of shape. The appeal to me on these is, that unlike my flows, I would not even have to bend down to lock them in place (though I would have to do so to unlock), This gets especially tiresome, if you live in areas like I do where the hills are smaller so you are strapping in and out many times a day. hope this puts the appeal in perspective
 
#7 ·
They would probably have more returns on licensing there tech to other companies... That is of course if the tech is worth having, in which case they would have no work and returns on every set sold... Surely that would be a better business model for them right now...??? If of course it is tech that works and would be deemed usable by other companies already established...!

Flow took a few years to get it right, K2 never really got it right... So i don't think there is a business case for yet another quick release / step in binding...
 
#11 ·
except Flow was an elegant solution. just a hinge and a wire really. with this I don't even want to know what's going on in that baseplate. plus they will have to beef up the materials like crazy to lock in that highback properly. it's like most of the things we see on kickstarter. engineers overengineering to solve problems that don't really exist.
 
#12 ·
To be fair, i would NOT be going near this...

They sold 25 sets on Indeigogo, and it would appear they never got delivered, so the hope of getting them for me is, well non existent...

No way would i risk my money on someone who has not even got the decency to reply to people that backed and paid on there funding campaign...

 
#22 ·
Kevin137. The Indiegogo campaign last year did not succeed. At the end of the Indiegogo campaign we had $5K, which is clearly not enough to get a new binding manufactured. We offered the Indiegogo backers a refund and they all chose to wait rather than receive a refund. We haven't been monitoring that page, which we probably should have, but we have been in contact directly via email with all the Indiegogo backers on the current status.

These bindings are not intended to appeal to everyone, but there are a lot of guys out there like larrytbull (and us) an a bunch of other people who've been in contact who like the concept.

The reality is most people are lucky to get a few days on snow a year, and if you're from somewhere like Australia where a long run is 2 minutes, a bit of a saving here and there can make a difference.
 
#16 ·
I go through the fingers on my gloves every season from just brushing the snow on the base before i strap in with my flows, otherwise i end up with packed ice in there and straps that are too tight or uncomfortable...

Imagine getting that lot out from UNDER the foot base before putting your foot down to lock in, or even if you could lock it in...
 
#23 ·
Oh i am not complaining, i have waited 18 months for crowd funded products, i know it can be slow...

But if you are funded on something, you have to understand how it looks when you see comments like this on a funding platform that was funded by backers regardless of meeting the target...

Now you are finding the situation is that people are doing there homework... And this is the result, i have researched what i can, and to me, it looks like you took money and delivered no product with no communication...

A simple 1 time post on there answering when someone replies, would of left you in a far better place, now we see that you have failed, and people are still waiting and you are trying to fund again...

I also understand that funding is time sensitive... And by that, what will fail 1 year, may well not fail the following year... And i will give you a very simple example...

The 1st project...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryangrepper/the-coolest-cooler-with-blender-music-and-so-much?ref=users

Now this is a very cool cooler, and wanted $125,000... What it got was $102,188 and it failed... No one was charged, no one paid anything, but the company stuck with it...!!!

The 2nd Project...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryangrepper/coolest-cooler-21st-century-cooler-thats-actually?ref=users

Wanted $50,000 in backing, is still running, and is by the same company with a few minor tweaks, and guess what, even though they only wanted $50,000 this time around, and with 2 days to go, they are funded to the tune of $11,000,000 yes 11 million...!!!

Things do change, and things can improve, and the only difference i can see in yours currently is a re-edited video, pretty much everything else is the same... And the problems from your 1st project still sit as the problems on the 2nd project...

The prototype example with different materials, bigger base plate etc, are still there, are still not allowing you to show what is possible and still putting people off... And Snowboarding is a small enough community already where people talk, and people do share there feelings...

You will sell some, wether you will get enough to make this a reality, is very unlikely right now... I use Flow, and the whole not bending down etc, well there are a few on here like me, with back issues (i broke mine 5 years ago) and this is the least of my concerns, my concerns are they are not gonna break while riding... And for that, there needs a whole heap more testing in the hands of people that will abuse them properly...!!!
 
#26 ·
Kevin137 you are 100% correct.

We did actually include a note about the Indiegogo campaign in the Kickstarter campaign. I just went to cut & paste it here but see it didn't make the final edit. You do and redo these things so many times before they go live. Will update and get that back in shortly.

It is also true about timing etc. The main video is the original video from last year with an old prototype. The middle video is a newer prototype.

We've been working with a few different designers and one thing became clear, to design a binding you need a specialist binding designer (might be obvious to some). So we have now done that and are waiting for the samples of the finished binding. Much better than what is in the video, but may not get here in time for the end of the Kickstarter. Either way we will post them up and see what people think, and decide whether to redo a Kickstarter if this one doesn't reach it's goal.

At the end of the day, only riding them will show if they are good or not. I know there's a few people on the forum here who know how to test a binding :). We'll put them out there and see what people think.
 
#39 ·
I am glad you took my comments in the context they where meant, i am not saying your product is crap, i am saying that it is going to be a hard sell...!

I am in Norway, ride with a few pros, and loads of instructors, we have one of the best teaching systems in Norway for bringing through the youth here, and everyone i have shown this 2 has said, no way would i buy them...

This is not because they look crap, but simply because they don't believe they can work in the real world... We have lots of powder and the biggest deal here is clogging up the under tray before pushing down... If that happens, then you have a binding you cannot lock in...!

Biggest failing point in my eyes, which then puts the whole project in doubt as if they don't lock down, or have issues due to conditions, then people will very quickly slate it...!

Get them out, the finished units, to as many people who can test in different conditions, including temps, as well as snow, and revisit next year is my suggestion, you may well end up not getting anywhere with this though...

Talking about temps, have you thought about moving parts and the testing it requires where for us, we have loads of the season at -20 and days as low as -30 Just curious, as everything works differently...!!! Even something as simple as using a go pro becomes hard work...!!! Batteries last a few minutes only... I have actually had boas freeze on me where it has been so cold they would not release... Only once, but was funny sitting in the car with the heater on to defrost them...!!!
 
#34 ·
I totally agree that ya have to eventually make a call on everythin you do, but you also have to listen to your audience after you've made that call!!!!!

If a chef keeps tryin to push a menu that nobody (or an overwhelming majority) likes the sound of, his restaurant won't keep it's doors open for long!!!!!

Even big corporations make mistakes/bad calls, but the ones that survive are the ones that swallow their pride, listen, and make the changes that are needed in order to be viable!!!!!

I wish you luck in your venture though, as I do understand how difficult a task you're facin!!!!!
 
#35 ·
strewth
An Australian, or "Aussie", exclaimation, similar to the somewhat more popular "Crikey!"
Strewth, that was a hard day, toss me a Fosters mate!

Origin

late 19th century: contraction of God's truth.

strewth
Line breaks: strewth
Pronunciation: /struːθ

/
(also struth)
exclamation
British informal
Used to express surprise or dismay.

Corruption of God′s truth. Compare zounds, blimey.

Interjection

strewth

(UK, Australia, New Zealand) A mild oath expressing surprise or generally adding emphasis.  [quotations ▼]

Strewth! I guess I′ve been too trigger happy!
 
#42 ·
But the question to be asked is whether that is for the benefit of the rider or the manufacturers wallets. Meaning, if the profit on a better product isn't as much as the profit on the lesser, why would you bother developing the better? But that still doesn't change the fact that you could do better.
 
#45 ·
While I fully agree that snowboarding keeps marketing to what has worked and doesn't believe that the biggest age group that made snowboarding huge has gotten older, I don't necessarily agree with what you're saying about this binding.

NO ONE has tested this. Right now it's still a concept binding and that shows. I know for a fact more moving parts = more failures. If you can think of a part on a binding, I or someone I know have broken it.

Truth be told it's not that hard to bend down and strap in, it's not that hard to slide in from the back of a binding and flip up the highback. If my bad knees, mangled back, broken body can do it 200 plus days a year, thousands of times a season I would like to believe other people can to. This argument that it's easier/faster doesn't fly it's not any less easier to reach down and flick a highback open than it is to reach down and pull a lever. Your body is still moving the same and bending down to do the same.

I've watched this binding come and go once on a crowd funded project and seeing it return yet again without any change in what they're doing except a slightly more aesthetically pleasing look doesn't build my confidence in the product. I've seen bindings with release levers come and go before. There's a reason they're not here anymore.
 
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