Are you guys planning to make Small size for ultra bindings anytime soon?
I like response of Unions but for some reason they start to crumble after 15 days.
Having same issues with Contacts and Flight Pro. I wanted to give a last chance with their Ultra bindings but you guys just dont have them for smaller size boots.
Such a contradiction in your statement. Loving them and hating them. Curious what you mean by that crumbling.
Use their warranty, they are awesome and will get you replacement parts for the "crumbling" ones. the only similar issues of possible crumbling is on the ankle strap when it was adjusted at wrong angles and hitting the lace hooks.
Crumbling like the paint chipped off? Bent heel cups sure, straps fraying yeah, glue coming off the foam on the highback definitely, but crumbling is a new one for me.
I dont really know how it happens but there are some "dents and scratches" in different parts of the binding. I wish I could take pictures but they are packed with snow stuff somewhere deep in my apartment so cant.
It doesnt affect my riding but sometimes annoy me or make my life more complicated.
On both bindings one of the forward leans switches just somehow got chewed up and arent usable. For some reason both are on my back legs. Also those teeth that help you to adjust forward lean almost gone as well. Doesnt really matter that much since I dont use any forward lean, but once when I wanted to try and couldnt. Also switch on Contacts always lose for some reason (no mater how much I click them on at the bottom they just hang there).
I did use warranty once when one of the discs on Flight Pros broke in two, and got them super fast so props to that.
The screw tool for toe strap on both contacts also got chewed up and I have to use wrench if I want to adjust toe strap but I got it dialed so no worries there.
One of the Flite Pros highbacks cracked on the side but I think it was damaged during my flight to Utah. I saw through the plane window how they were throwing our snowboard bags around and my bindings were packed last in it(so they were on top side of the bag). Or maybe a day later after my riding, I noticed it only at the end of the day when I put to much weight on tail press and felt high-back bent way too much. I just super - glued them and put some tape around them seems like holding up :dance1:
Now most worrying is a frame of my front Flite Pro. The inner side frame (between 2 straps) has a little crack on it. It's only halfway though so I just keep checking it out, if I see it going though almost all frame I will probably stop riding them.
Maybe it's just me. I am a bit crazy. My boards are a mess, I keep finding rocks when I try to find powder. I love trees but dont have enough experience to ride them yet. But my Burton bindings holding up better then both Unions, but I also ride Burtons much less.
Question for Union and any others with experience. Union trilogy- thinking of getting some for my girl. Are they actually noticeably lighter than others on the market or is that just marketing? Honestly lol, it's between these and escapades and if they're truly way lighter she'll be all over em.
It's tough, because if we tooled up a larger size for women, we would sell about 50 pair globally. Not a good return on investment. It would take 50 years to get back to even.
The good thing is we have some pretty damn soft mens bindings that she would fit in just fine. The Flite Pro and Contact are the first that come to mind.
C3 is not selling them at this time. If your toe straps are shot, hit up C3's warranty and get a new pair. Be nice and there's a good chance they'll hook you up with the upgrade.
Eyyyyy... So im stuck between deciding to pick up a pair of 2016 Cartels and 2016 Atlas's.. Coming from 2014 contact pro's, but looking for a little stiffer ride. What would be the biggest difference jumping form the CP to Atlas's? obviously stiffer.. canted baseplates?
You are spot on with the stiffness and cantedness. No minidisk on the Atlas.
Comparing with the Cpro, you're going to see a lot more responsiveness. The Atlas would compliment a stiffer board and more of an "all mountain freeride" type of vibe.
It's all personal preference, but yeah. More stiff.
I really want a pair of those FC's, but they're not even close to in the budget for this season.
I can attest first-hand that Union's warranty/parts department is top notch. Here's my example:
I purchased a set of Union Factory bindings in size L/XL last season. I noticed a problem right away... with my big-ass boots (size 13 Thirty-Two's) the ankle straps did not work properly - they didn't fit around the boot well enough to latch without a ton of trouble because they weren't long enough. I knew this would be a problem on the mountain since I could at most get the latch to grab onto only 1-2 teeth on the ladder and even that was a struggle.
So, I reached out to Union. They got back to me with a quick response. They quickly sent me out a set of hardware and ankle straps from the Union Force which fit much better and allowed me to properly engage the ankle strap.
If anyone else has this same problem as I did, you can use your Union Factory ankle straps themselves. What you need is the Union Force hardware which goes from ankle strap and attaches at the heel cup. That is what I'm doing currently and it works great.
I'm sure the whole customer service team over there is great, but I personally dealt with Riley Goodwin (Riley@Unionbindingcompany.com).
:thumbsup:
I really want a pair of those FC's, but they're not even close to in the budget for this season.
I can attest first-hand that Union's warranty/parts department is top notch. Here's my example:
I purchased a set of Union Factory bindings in size L/XL last season. I noticed a problem right away... with my big-ass boots (size 13 Thirty-Two's) the ankle straps did not work properly - they didn't fit around the boot well enough to latch without a ton of trouble because they weren't long enough. I knew this would be a problem on the mountain since I could at most get the latch to grab onto only 1-2 teeth on the ladder and even that was a struggle.
So, I reached out to Union. They got back to me with a quick response. They quickly sent me out a set of hardware and ankle straps from the Union Force which fit much better and allowed me to properly engage the ankle strap.
If anyone else has this same problem as I did, you can use your Union Factory ankle straps themselves. What you need is the Union Force hardware which goes from ankle strap and attaches at the heel cup. That is what I'm doing currently and it works great.
I'm sure the whole customer service team over there is great, but I personally dealt with Riley Goodwin.
:thumbsup:
Couple questions for Union Inhouse. Is the ankle strap on the T.Rice binding for this year smaller/streamlined like last year's strap? Is the length adjuster on the Atlas ankle strap longer than the one from last year's Factory? Lastly, are you able to say which binding the Asymbol collab from this year will be based on (I'm guessing the T.Rice again), and when those will be available?
The FC is stiffer and less weight. The bases are fairly close stiffness wise, the the Forged Carbon highbacks are way way more stiff, compared to what was on the MC.
Dammit! That looks awesome. You picked the right guy to ride your bindings. This is actually going to be my first season riding sleds and literally can't wait.
I don't have one yet but I have two separate friends that own businesses and have 3-4 powder sleds. They want me to go ride with them at Buff and Rabbit Ear pass. I'm looking for a long track right now but I kind of want to get some experience on the machines before I buy so I know what I really want.
Danny Kass and Union have team up once again for an ultra limited-edition pro model. Designed to meet the standards of a five-time US Open champ with two Olympic medals, the “Blazed and Confused” binding features a lifetime warranty Stave IV Baseplate, Ultra Grip Toe Straps, Team Highbacks, and bulletproof Duraflex ST Nylon throughout. If you’re ready to party like it’s the last day of high school, grab a pair of these lightweight performance-driven ass kickers, for an all around good time.
Jump over to our Instagram account for a chance to win a pair. @unionbindingco
Color: Blazed
Size: M/L - L/XL
BASEPLATE: Stage IV Baseplate (Force)
BASEPLATE MATERIAL: Durfl ex ST Nylon
HIGHBACK: Team HighBack
FORWARD LEAN ADJUSTER: Shift-on-the-fl y Forward Lean
BUSHING: Multi Density Thermoformed Eva
HEELCUP: Extruded 3D Aluminum
ANKLE STRAP: 3D direct Connect Straps System
ANKLE STRAP TECH: SonicFused Straps
TOE STRAP: UltraGrip Toe Straps
BUCKLES: Magnesium Buckles
DISK: 4X4+Channel Ready
HARDWARE: Grade 8.8 Hardware
PACKAGING: Thermoformed Box
EXTRA: Lifetime warranty Baseplate
The Data has been out of the line for a pretty long time. Not sure if we still have any, and/or if they are the design you are looking for.
The good thing is the hole pattern on those is the same for all bindings.
Assuming you're in the states, so call C3 @ 206.632.1601 and just ask for Warranty. Might as well ask for new mounting parts as well. Be nice and they'll probably hook you up regardless of if it's covered or not.
Just call their warranty/customer service offices. Those guys are great to deal with but I'm going to go out on a limb and say they won't have those older parts.
Those 'Merica (Superforce) bindings Union posted up are pretty sick. I'd much rather have a pair of those than the "Blazed and Confused" ones. Just my personal opinion though.
They are intended for all of the above. For people with the personal preference of a generally stiffer set up. Call it an 8 on the flex-o-meter. Maybe a 7, depending on how warm it is.
If you've ever ridden the older Atlas, the Factory, or even the 1st Generation Travis Rice, they are similar but lighter and with better straps & ratchets.
Trying to decide on bindings to put on my brand new YES PYL 159. I am an east coast rider - looking to use this set up for mostly carving groomers and sometimes tree runs. I have been looking at the Atlas, but also the 2014/15 Factory too. Can you provide any insight into one vs the other in this situation?
Trying to decide on bindings to put on my brand new YES PYL 159. I am an east coast rider - looking to use this set up for mostly carving groomers and sometimes tree runs. I have been looking at the Atlas, but also the 2014/15 Factory too. Can you provide any insight into one vs the other in this situation?
The Atlas's straps are better, and that new highback is very nice. Light, asymmetric, and super comfortable.
The Atlas is injected with Duraflex Nylon, which didn't exist back when we made the Factory binding.
My suggestion is, unless you're finding the Factory for super cheap, go with the Atlas. Everybody is loving that thing.
Thanks for the support, and if you ever need anything, feel free to hit me up. It's the busy time of the year, but I'll do my best getting on here as much as possible.
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