Hey guys,
I just got all my gear finally. Rossginol Templar (2014) since it's supposed to be good board for a beginner. Salomon Savage boots (Size 10, orange and black), Union Flite Pros.
My board is 155cm. I am 5'10 160 lbs, and thus I want with 155cm (after using the frosty rider calc and staying on the short end of the spectrum since I am a beginner).
I got size 10 boots. I originally had M Burton Custom bindings, but they were too small, and with only limited stock, I couldn't get them in Large, I had to then switch to Unions. So I got Union L/XL.
This L/XL size made me worried about a regular width 155cm board not having a wide board.
I finally got all the gear today and set it up - I am really worried it's too much overhang, so hopefully you guys can help since I might not know.
I took some pictures. I tried to get angles to help you guys - If there is anything you can't see let me know!
(I figured a size 10 boot would do fine or a Regular board, I read that you dont need a wide board till like size 11....but look)
I am at work now, so I can't check yet to confirm (I will then), but off the top of my head it wasn't. The heel cup had a few notches lines I saw with numbers so I think I can push it in.
Also, what do you mean by the staps look too long? Which one?
The toe strap - I had to unscrew the little screw and move it out onto the last hole of the plastic strap - so it could reach around my boot fully. At the default setting, it couldnt even reach around my boot. only at the last/furthest hole it reached.
Should have got M/L union bindings for that size boot, I have medium Contact Pros and they fit my 10s just fine and medium burton bindings, I put a size 10 Nike Vapen in a medium Burton binding which has a huge shell. I also think you have more heel than toe.
The reason I got the L/XL was I reached out to Union via email and explained to them what boot I had and that a Medium Burton Custom was too small. They responded yes my boot is a large bulky boot for size 10, thus L would be the better size to get.
I sized down to 9.5 Salomon Dialogues and they fit amazing in my medium burton Genesis, medium Contact Pros and my medium Salomon Districts. The size 10 Nike Vapens fit just fine too. Let Kansasnoob with his 10 1/2 32s ride my medium Districts. If you can't fit a 9 1/2 or 10 in the mediums you're doing something wrong.
Also the foot print on the Salomon Dialogue is tiny compared to most shells.
I sized down to 9.5 Salomon Dialogues and they fit amazing in my medium burton Genesis, medium Contact Pros and my medium Salomon Districts. The size 10 Nike Vapens fit just fine too. Let Kansasnoob with his 10 1/2 32s ride my medium Districts. If you can't fit a 9 1/2 or 10 in the mediums you're doing something wrong.
The boot overhang isn't horrible but I'm more concerned about the bindings overhanging. It may not hurt your riding but I have never seen bindings larger than the board like that, so I worry that it will give you problems. Like Mystery2Many said try to return the bindings and get M/L Unions. That should fix any issues. Your gear looks good, I'm jealous.
The boot overhang isn't horrible but I'm more concerned about the bindings overhanging. It may not hurt your riding but I have never seen bindings larger than the board like that, so I worry that it will give you problems.
I'll take a picture of my size 10 Nike Vapen in both the medium Contact Pro and medium Burton Genesis and the proof will be in the pudding. The Vapen has a larger foot print than your boot.
The size 10 Vapen is much bigger than the 9 1/2 Dialogue and I put the 9 1/2 and 10 dialogue next to each other before I bought them because I was hoping a noticable difference but they were practically the same shell size.
I honestly didn't even bother looking at the other dialogue boots. I was hell bent on giving Boa another try. It didn't go so well with me when I had the K2 Maysis. The Vapen is right up there with the largest shells i've seen. The F4 was smaller but it was a huge pain in the ass to get off my foot and it gave me the impression that it would be a toe freezer.
Finally got the medium bindings - since some consensus here seemed to be fine, some said the binding/straps seemed to large. So I ordered medium so I could compare fits.
I took some more pictures of trying it on with 1 medium bindings and 1 large binding to compare.
As you'll see in the pictures it almost seems like the medium is actually too small of a size - and the strap could barely click in on toe and ankle. (youll see how little excess strap i have in medium vs large past the buckle)
still concerned about overhang, but based on how the pictures look, I think I should stick to a large?
Obviously the medium ladders/straps are too short like this.
But:
1. Is the heel cup on the medium bindings extended all the way? Does not look like it.
2. Are the boots tightened? Again, does not really look like it.
Put your foot in the boot, tighten the boot all the way up. Strap into your board, hop around a little bit and click the ratchet to make sure they are fully tightened. Then take a picture. Also straps stretch and break in.
3. It is really really good that it holds your boot like that in the heel cup. It will keep the boot locked in for great response and zero lift, it will also allow you to ride without overtightening the straps and causing pressure points.
Keep in mind that the boot and bindings will break in. Right now everything is rigid. Your set up looks good, now stop over thinking it and GO RIDE!
I'm still worried about the overhang...just from the boot. I tried to center it.
It's like 1.5 inches on the heel, and almost 1.5-2inches on the toe....
Hopefully, it won't actually affect me too much - but in every video or picture of people I watch I see barely any overhang on their boards.
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