I just switched out my bindings this year and have been very happy with the ease of use (Gnu B-Frees) - my old body is happy not to be clambering up from the ground multiple times on a hill that is full of short runs. However, sadly these have no canting and I am feeling it. My last bindings had 3 degree canting and were very comfortable and responsive until they broke, I now feel like I have to work 3x as hard to apply edges and my feet, calves and quads also agree. I think some of this is due to a lack of conditioning brought on by unfortunate health and family circumstances in the summer and fall of last year but I am thinking (naively and hopefully) that some of this might be due to the loss of canting. I have as a response ordered some shredsoles in the hope of regaining some of the canting benefit and hopefully this will help. Curious to hear what others think. Maybe I am just getting old... Any other thoughts on things I can try equipment wise to reduce the agony? I will work on the conditioning on my own. As detail I haven't changed board, boots or stance, just bindings. My old bindings were K2 Agogos which they don't make anymore. I ride slightly forward duck 12/9, am regular and have been boarding for about 7 years. Intermediate/advanced level. Strictly free riding, no tricks. I would rather not give up on the bindings as I quite like them in other ways.
Honestly not a big canting fan. I was on holiday and couldn't bring my own setup, so I rented some Nitro Teams for a couple days. 3 degree cant pads. Seemed a little excessive, although I think I was only riding at around a 22" stand width. As far as pain / effort was concerned, didn't really notice anything along those lines, I just prefer the way no cant feels. Seems like a big marketing thing that people got caught up in.
One thing I did notice is that you have to ride very differently. With cant you can pressure the inside of your foot much more easily and it encourages keep weight more centered (which is annoying to me when I'm trying to weight my front foot). Without canting, I "cowbow" my knees a lot more to leverage the outside edge of my bindings, which I prefer.
I have Nitro Phantoms with 3 degree canting, and I like them. They're a bit on the stiffer side, so they might be appropriate. But don't take my word for it.
I'm old with shitty knees and rock a wide stance and I can take it or leave it. Theoretically, canting should greatly benefit me. In reality, I can't tell much of a difference at all. I just don't think 3 degrees or whatever is enough to make a difference.
I can notice a difference between my Now Drives without can't vs my Union Factories with cant. Although I prefer a canted footed I'm still going to ride the same without one.
To me some canter just makes my stance more comfortable. I really don't notice any edge to edge or tip to tail nuances.
I think it really depends on your stance as well. I've heard people say stand straight with your boots and tilt your feet to mimic canting and see what feels better. It does feel better standing straight with my feet almost straight. For myself who rides 15/-15, canting would put my knees in an awkward angle no?
I have 3 degree cant on 2 boards and like it. Its easier on the knees, can pressure the nose and tail more and more fore/aft movement....to which I think there is more range of fore/aft that results in more control to get aggressive and/or lighter on the nose/tail. But I got some more testing to do about this...because the past two days out have been making some adjustments...but more testing tomorrow. However I have had to widen my stance about 1 inch to remain dynamic.
I have noticed a difference with both cowboying and pulling my knees together...but I think its just skills development of trying to improve my edge hold and radius size carving.
I have the Rome Boss 390's, and I run the 3.5* canting pads on it. My front binding is 15* and my back is -15*. I have tried the 0* cant pads which are included, and the 3.5* cant feels much more comfortable to me at the end of the day.
I just went from 390's to 390 bosses with the canting. All I can say is its more comfortable after I tore my ACL 2 seasons ago. I use it in both front and back. my front foot has the bad knee 3.5 deg
wooden canting just doesn't sound too comfortable. It may be comfortable depending on how you do it. Maybe look for canted pads from another binding then modify them?
@Psicko, that was 30 yrs ago when we were making them out of oak, if I make a pair now I'll use some sort of foam/rubber, but I'll have to take a look at other companies, thanks
I've thought about using a piece of the EVA foam padded flooring stuff, cut a piece, cant it on my bench belt sander and cutout an outline...and make a hole (save the hole piece to put back in after mounting the binding) for the disc and use some spray on adhesive (car headliner stuff) and spray a bit on the baseplate and on the foam...let dry a few minutes and done. A few years ago I bought a canted Burton footbed and that was all it was...and I just drilled 2 small holes and zip tied it to the plastic footbed on some old drakes...works fine.
Anyway did use the EVA foam flooring stuff (idk 3/8"-1/2" thick) for my splitboard spark afterburner plates and the headliner adhesive...works great, less cold and some cushioning for those stiff ass binders. Btw already had the canted volie pucks.
edit: that should be explained well enough...but could take pics for the imaginarlly retarded.
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