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Old 12-28-2009, 12:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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does anyone have any back to back time on these two systems? I have been planning to get a pair of NXT-AT's for my new Bataleon Jam that's on the way but after looking at the Cinch system I am really curious about it. I like the way the top strap swings up out of the way to make it easier in/out than the Flows and still set tight but I'm a bit nervous about the extra moving parts and durability....

I'll be putting my Ride RX's on it for now and waiting for the sales to start before I purchase anything either way, was going to wait on the board too but got worried that I wouldn't be able to find one when the time came and bit the bullet on the price.
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Old 12-28-2009, 12:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 12-28-2009, 01:06 AM   #3 (permalink)
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ive ridden these both.... coincidentally they were back to back. From my personal expereriences the k2s were better. becuase they clamp down on your boot they leave no rooom for slop.

If you think about the flows the high back goes down and you jam your boot in. what you may not realize is that there has to be a little bit of play to actually squeeze your boot in. after a season or so i had some pretty gnarly wear on the sides of my boots.

Id go for their CTS or CTX and get the footbeds. dont cheap out and get the CTC's.

(thats my bias opinion seeing i sell them now) take it as you want.
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I had the k2s and they were okay, but after riding them I have moved far away from rear entry systems. My k2s always had problems with the wire as it popped out of the channel all the time. Also the angle of the binding make it hard to get them on if you need to sit down. They are really easy to strap in if you are standing on a flat enough area, but can be difficult if you are not. Also my bindings seemed to have worn down a lot and don't hold me in as well. To be honest i would get neither the flow or the k2s after riding on one
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The above posts completely depend on what year your Flows will be. 2010? The straps are now traditional ratchet style. You can lift them up and away just like regular bindings. This means that you can also ratchet them down to fit much better. As for jamming your foot in? I don't understand this logic. Simple solution instead of forcefully kicking your boots in Flows... Put weight on your toeside while you are stepping in. Your boots will go in just fine even if the straps are snug. Then it is just a matter of raising the highback to give it that last push. Never had a problem with my Flows and I always make them real snug. Although I have had the cushioning on the lower part of the high backs scratch off. That is probably due to my boots more than anything though because the back of my boots have a really rough texture to it. Doesn't effect the performance at all so blah.

Can't speak for Cinches. Flows have never failed me. Not even the Flites as crappy as they are.
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Old 12-28-2009, 12:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I do not have experience riding the cinches, but have ridden the flows. The Cinch's are on the heavier side, but i do like the design. However, as stated above I have read the same thing mentioned, about the K2's wearing down. In my experience, the Flow's stay true to their fit throughout usage. What is a little boot scruff anyways?

I ride the NXT-AT's and they are very solid. This season I get to Ride the Flow Teams as well. If you are looking into rear-entry bindings, they are the best in the business. Just buy them man, you won't regret it.
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Old 12-28-2009, 12:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I just moved from Cinches CTS to NXT-AT's. Cinches are more straightforward to dial in, but the Flow is lighter and has less moving parts.

The Cinch highback doesn't come down all the way, it's like a clam-shell action - the straps go slightly up and the highback comes slightly down when it's opened. You need to point your toe down and slip into it. I've never had a problem with the cable coming out at all.

Either one is going to take some playing to get used to and become proficient at slipping in and out. Both hold on nice and tight.
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Old 12-28-2009, 06:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Right on, thanks for the input guys. The wife rides on a set of Fives from last year and loves them now that we have them dialed in right which is why I was going that direction.

I did notice that Hillcrest carrys both brands so maybe I'll swing by there and look at them side by side before I decide for sure, but i'm still leaning towards the Flows.
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