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Stiff Bindings Other Than Rome Targas

Hi guys, I currently have a GNU Carbon Credit with Rome 390 Boss. Setup is great so far and I'm loving it. I've never tried stiffer bindings before and I'm curious as to how I would like them, so I'm looking for one to switch out my 390 Boss with. Also, in a year or two, I'm looking to get a stiffer board as well, so I can keep my Carbon Credit/390 Boss med-stiff setup, then setup a dedicated stiff board.

I don't do park, I only do groomers right now. And I'm currently trying to learn carving. So I was thinking stiff responsive bindings would work well for me.

Back when I bought the Rome 390 Boss 2 years ago though, my choices were between that and the Targas. So I'm looking into grabbing some Targas right now. But I'm also wondering if there's something else I should try. I just bought my wife some Burton Lexas, and I really like some of its adjustment settings that my 390 Boss does not have (the high back lean adjuster for example is awesome on the lexa, and the tool-less removal of the footbed). Also, reading through some "top snowboard bindings 2017" articles online, I haven't seen any mention of any of the Rome bindings, except for the DOD.

So now I was wondering if I should go with the Targas, or try a different brand. I read that the following bindings are also stiff and could be good as well:
- Burton Cartels
- Bent Metal Solution
- KS Lien AT

I'm trying to stay around $200 if possible. A bit more would be ok but definitely not $300s. For the Targas, I saw the 2016 (last year) on sale for $180, but I'm looking for the 2017 instead since based on the pictures, the 2017 has better adjustment options (highback rotation for example, 2016 has 3 holes for the high back, 2017 based on the pics have a slider I think). 2017s I saw for $230 which is a doable price for me.

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I gave this year's Targas an award. And I have some. There is nothing you can't adjust on them.

Other options high on my list are the Ride Capo, Now Drive, and Nitro Phantom
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I gave this year's Targas an award. And I have some. There is nothing you can't adjust on them.

Other options high on my list are the Ride Capo, Now Drive, and Nitro Phantom
thanks. I do love the 390 Boss, so I'm sure I would like the Targas as well.

I've heard good things regarding Ride Capo and Now Drive as well, I will look into those.
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I have the 390 Bosses as well as the 2016 Targas and I like my Targas. I rode a friends 17 Targas and actually liked my 16s better, equally responsive but more comfortable and felt like they had a bit more freedom of movement (and yes ankle strap was in the same position on both).

I haven't been on Cartels in a few seasons but I'd consider them more comparable to the Bosses than Targas. It's a versatile binding that can handle stiffer boards, but I wouldn't consider it a stiff binding (unless they've made some major changes recently). The other thing to consider with Burton is they don't have an adjustable heel loop and their reflex discs have very limited adjustment options. This makes them difficult to center your boot if your an 'in between' boot size and allows for less options to fine tune stance width.
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Flux XFs. I have the SFs and they rip.

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I gave this year's Targas an award. And I have some. There is nothing you can't adjust on them.

Other options high on my list are the Ride Capo, Now Drive, and Nitro Phantom
I remember you saying before how much you enjoyed the Gen X also. Is the pricepoint the main reason why it's not on your list?
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I remember you saying before how much you enjoyed the Gen X also. Is the pricepoint the main reason why it's not on your list?
I really like the EST GenX. The spring bed being the main reason. Since the ReFlex doesn't have it they aren't that special imo.
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Burton Diodes are the shit, unfortunately they don't make them any more. I keep trying to snatch up used pairs that come up for sale.

The x-base I believe is their stiffest current model, and may be the binding I go to in the future for all my boards (I like to run the same model on all boards for interchangability, and cause I just like damn stiff bindings...)

FWIW, race shops used to sell Burton Diodes along with their BX race boards.
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I have the 390 Bosses as well as the 2016 Targas and I like my Targas. I rode a friends 17 Targas and actually liked my 16s better, equally responsive but more comfortable and felt like they had a bit more freedom of movement (and yes ankle strap was in the same position on both).

I haven't been on Cartels in a few seasons but I'd consider them more comparable to the Bosses than Targas. It's a versatile binding that can handle stiffer boards, but I wouldn't consider it a stiff binding (unless they've made some major changes recently). The other thing to consider with Burton is they don't have an adjustable heel loop and their reflex discs have very limited adjustment options. This makes them difficult to center your boot if your an 'in between' boot size and allows for less options to fine tune stance width.
Cartels, you are absolutely right. I must have been reading some bad info I thought they were stiffer like 7/10 or 8/10. Or maybe I saw them under the "freeride" section instead of the "all mountain" section of some website and I assumed they were stiff. If they are like the 390 Bosses, I will skip them for now.

As for the 16s and 17s Targas, this is interesting I will look to see if I can find more info on this. I have a 15 390 Boss, which from the pictures it looks like the 16 Targas are closer to the 15s than the 17s. My 15 390 Boss are comfortable indeed



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Burton Diodes are the shit, unfortunately they don't make them any more. I keep trying to snatch up used pairs that come up for sale.

The x-base I believe is their stiffest current model, and may be the binding I go to in the future for all my boards (I like to run the same model on all boards for interchangability, and cause I just like damn stiff bindings...)

FWIW, race shops used to sell Burton Diodes along with their BX race boards.

yes sir 2 years ago when I was trying to decide 390 Boss vs Targas, I remember the Diodes were on the top of my list too. I've never tried them myself but from what I've read they have some pretty good reviews.



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Flux XFs. I have the SFs and they rip.
I was looking at these the other day as well. The specs on their site does fit what I'm looking for. I will read up on these some more.


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Cartels, you are absolutely right. I must have been reading some bad info I thought they were stiffer like 7/10 or 8/10. Or maybe I saw them under the "freeride" section instead of the "all mountain" section of some website and I assumed they were stiff. If they are like the 390 Bosses, I will skip them for now.

As for the 16s and 17s Targas, this is interesting I will look to see if I can find more info on this. I have a 15 390 Boss, which from the pictures it looks like the 16 Targas are closer to the 15s than the 17s. My 15 390 Boss are comfortable indeed
In years past I think Burton actually posted response ratings on their site and 7 or 8 sounds about right, I remember they generally rated them as stiffer than what I thought they were.

As for the Targas, I think the frame has basically stayed the same, the major difference between 16 and 17 are the highback and straps as far as I'm aware. The 17s just felt a little more locked in (I'd guess because of the less pliable ankle strap and more curved highback) which could be a positive for some people, but to me felt like overkill given how stiff and responsive they already are. Neither are going to be quite as comfy as the Bosses as they don't have that cushy ankle strap, but between the 2 the 16s felt better on my feet.
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