I am looking for light stiffer binding that has some canting. I currently own 2013 and 2015 Vitas and 2012 Cartels.
I will be using it on my 2014 Flow Darwin but I also want to be able to use it on my Salomon Assassin and Rome Mod Rocker when I travel so that I don't have to carry two bindings.
I've been looking at Rome Targa, Ride Capo and Salomon Defender(2016).
I was able to demo the Targa and it was good overall but felt heavy compare to my Burton bindings.
How does Capo and Defender compare in weight and responsiveness to the Vitas and Cartel?
Not sure why so many people fret over a couple ounces in binding weight. Want to shave a few ounces? Just be diligent in kicking the snow off of your board. There ya go, there's those ounces.
Pretty much this. A few years back I was into trying to shave off as much weight as I could from the gear. I weighed out a bunch of stuff on the bathroom scale, and even "ultra light boots" showed the same weight as older non-"ultra light weight". Bindings and boards I found the same thing, if they were made in the past 5 years or so, they weighed exactly the same. I was lured and fooled by the marketing term "super mega ultra light weight". Maybe those carbon fiber Burton bindings are noticeable difference, but not as much as just kicking some snow off your board on the chairlift as linvillegorge said.
The Katana has a softer highback than the Targa. I have not ridden the Katana though so i can't say how that translates in responsiveness. My guess is that being softer would make it less responsive.
The more locked in and responsive feel you get from your bindings the lighter your board will feel to whip around. Doesn't mean it's easier to do everything on the board. Anyway, that means more than shaving grams off bindings. Also need a responsove boot without movement inside. Any lag and looseness makes your board feel heavier.
Just something to think about or what you'll find out down the road. Gram savings only become relevant if you do over day long treks touring.
Do you mind sharing why you prefer the AT? Is it response, comfort or something else? Also, would it work with the Salomon Assassin for general cruising around All mountain riding ? Thanks.
I have the Districts for carving. I like them for that as they provide freedom of movement side to side but are completely locked down front to back. That's where the Liens differ. The Tripod frame does still offer any desired drive front to back but are a little smoother and maintain just a little bit of the surfy feel you get side to side, front to back. So for all mountain shenanigans I like the way the Tripod frame rides. For carving I like the edge to edge power of Shadow Fit. My more carving oriented decks are all Flow or Shadow Fit. Freeride, Targas. Park DSs.
Diodes.
Nice to have it all as light as possible but in the end, on the snow.... not sure if you'll really feel the difference... My SLX boots weigh a ton compared to some of the other boots out there... but I guess my Diodes make up for it...
Yeah the at's frame is still probably softish with a more supportive highback. I'm sure nivek will chime in. THe fs' do make it quite easy to hold an edge due to the pods, but otherwise throwing an aggressive board around, they're not snappy enough. Though I've never tried the AT's nor swapped any pods. If you want a more relaxed ride on edge that's responsove, the nows are.better. Though there's quite a bit of forward lean on my recons even with the adjuster removed.
I just snagged a pair of Union MC Metafuses. I'm legitimately shocked how light they are, and the carbonfibre highback has zero give straight back but a nice bit of give side to side. If you want light and stiff I'd say these have to be pretty damn up there, the foot bed is carbon as well, not much padding. I can tell they won't be my cup of tea but definitely need to give them a day or two!
They are actually not that stiff, or at least don't ride that way (the plush straps probably contributed to that). Definitely softer than the Union Factory/T Rice/etc let alone most of the forge carbon stuff.
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